[pp.int.general] Let us organize a study session!

Mon Aug 3 11:51:52 CEST 2009

Hi all,
(I) think the foundation issue is very interesting as long as it doesn´t end
up in Liechtenstein or Austria ;-). Could anybody send me more information
about the conference in Brussel?
The proposal with the meeting in Berlin still stands. Im still waiting for
certain key-data from poland, germany and spain in order to try to fix a
date.
Greets
GAbriel

2009/8/3 coretx <coretx at piratenpartij.nl>

> Jurgen ( PP.BE <http://pp.be/> Chairman ) and I are about to find out the
> criteria for setting up a PPI foundation in Brussels.
>
> Probably we only need statutes saying " For the promotion and stimulation
> of pirate party's around the world" ( As generic as possible, so that no one
> can oppose. )
> It would be nice if we can make it official @ the Brussels conference.
>
> A Anonymous source told me that some money might be available for such
> "projects" in the near future.
> Plus, it would make us eligable for being subsidised.
>
> Extra detail: Most political party's have scientific institutes, wich are
> _also_ eligable for being subsidised.
>
>
>
> On Aug 3, 2009, at 10:45 AM, gabriel luis wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>> think it is a great idea to put up meetings. On the other hand I
>> think that meetings needing more time and input (request for public
>> fundings
>> and other types of tecnocracy) that...Well it is too pesimistic to say
>> that
>> the input is gonna be higher in qualitative and quantitative terms than
>> the
>> output, but in my experience until now this is usually the case.
>> What do you think about creating a central party board? I have observed
>> until now that the decission-making of the party is kind of splittered,
>> since everybody acts from inside border levels. Obviously borders play a
>> role in policy making but I think pirates shouldn´t commit the same
>> mistakes
>> like other (european) parties -whereas pirates have also a Chile-based
>> branch- failing in border based policy making. What about being a true
>> borderless party? Is it pure utopia? Would it be possible to move the seat
>> of the party from one country to another? What about using mailboxes to be
>> checked by local pirate-members? What about a central online bank
>> account for activists to get funds directly?
>> I think keeping the levels of burocracy-tecnocracy to the lowest levels
>> possible makes transparency also easier to achieve.
>> Al this implies a certain level of trust. In Germany it is said that
>> "trusting is good, but controlling is better". Some keywords
>>
>> Central party office (pirata.eu?), lobbying in Brussel for wireless
>> inet-access, for legalization, for deintermediation in policy making,
>>
>> I fetch the next coffee
>> See ya
>> Gabriel
>>
>> 2009/8/2 Amelia Andersdotter <teirdes at gmail.com>
>>
>> 2009/8/2 Patrick Mächler v/o Valio <valio at visionsinteractive.ch>:
>>>
>>>> Dear pirates,
>>>>
>>>> What would you think of organizing a study session for young people
>>>> (mostly pirates) for about a week, that would be almost free for all
>>>> participants, except for a small fee of about 45€?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> It's a fantastic idea! We already have a semi-formed working group for
>>> this within Ung Pirat in Sweden. It's one of our main international
>>> ambitions for the coming year, when it will also receive a place in
>>> our budget bringing down those 45 euros to some maximum of 30 or so
>>> per participant.
>>>
>>> However, there aren't just funding opportunities from CoE: we've been
>>> looking into funding opportunities from the Youth Action Initiative by
>>> the European Commission. Basically, with the EC requirements, we need
>>> a cultural/educational exchange between two or more EU member states.
>>> They normally fund about 70-75% of the entire project cost except for
>>> travelling costs which they only fund 60% of.
>>>
>>> In Sweden, these EC grants are applied for via Ungdomsstyrelsen (Board
>>> of Youth - administratory unit responsible for all grants and funds to
>>> youth orgs) 4 times a year, so it's money we'd likely get relatively
>>> quick.
>>>
>>> When I was in touch with Junge Piraten they said they'd like for such
>>> an event to be held during the summer holidays, and that's probably
>>> the best alternative for most young pirates, so I'd say we set the
>>> dates for some time next year in july (2010)!
>>>
>>> Also, anyone else who might be reading this: it helps vastly when
>>> applying for youth in action grants if there's a collaboration between
>>> youth organisations, so if you know a couple of young pirates with
>>> free time on their hands: have them start your national youth league!
>>> We can then have exchanges!
>>>
>>> sincerely,
>>>
>>> Amelia
>>>
>>> ======================
>>>> 1. WHY SHOULD WE CARE?
>>>> ======================
>>>>
>>>> I was recently at a study session that was organized by a ANSO, a nordic
>>>> LGBT union at the Youth Center in Budapest by the Council of Europe
>>>> (CoE). The CoE supported them in every way you could think of;
>>>> financial, organizational and last but not least shelter, food and
>>>> ticket refunding for all participants.
>>>> I will remember that as a really great experience.
>>>>
>>>> To make things clear: The CoE is that organization that is concerned
>>>> with the European Convention on Human Rights; it has no direct
>>>> connections to the European Union. Almost all European countries are a
>>>> part of it.
>>>>
>>>> The CoE does support topics which are on our agendas, take a look
>>>> http://www.coe.int/aboutcoe/index.asp?page=nosActions&sp=11#action11
>>>> http://www.coe.int/aboutcoe/index.asp?page=nosActions&sp=8#action8
>>>>
>>>> In my view that would be a real opportunity for us on an organizational
>>>> and a political level.
>>>>
>>>> ==================
>>>> 2. WHAT IS NEEDED?
>>>> ==================
>>>>
>>>> We would need to create a team which
>>>> * fills out a funding application
>>>> * gets in contact with the CoE
>>>> * creates a program for the study session
>>>> * and executes that program in the study session
>>>>
>>>> There are some criteria which we would have to met of course to get
>>>> accepted.
>>>>
>>>> --- quote ---
>>>> Activities can only be awarded if they are truly international or
>>>> multilateral projects, which
>>>> • Involve participants who are residents in at least 8 member states of
>>>> the Council of Europe, limiting participants coming from one country to
>>>> 20% of the total. Up to a maximum of 15% of the participants may come
>>>> from non-member countries;
>>>> • Have a majority of participants between 18 and 30 years of age (with a
>>>> maximum of 25% over the age of 30) who can act as multipliers of the
>>>> results of the work done during the activity;
>>>> • Strive to achieve a geographical and gender balance.
>>>> --- /quote ---
>>>> For detailed information, take a look here http://tinyurl.com/how-to-ss
>>>>
>>>> =========================
>>>> 3. WHEN COULD WE DO THAT?
>>>> =========================
>>>>
>>>> From http://www.eycb.coe.int/
>>>> --- quote ---
>>>> The EYC Secretariat must receive applications for activities to be held
>>>> at either EYC Budapest or EYC Strasbourg by the following deadlines:
>>>> * 1 April for activities to be carried out in the first half of the
>>>> following calendar year;
>>>> * 1 October for activities to be carried out in the second half of the
>>>> following calendar year.
>>>> --- /quote ---
>>>>
>>>> I think if some people are really interested we could manage this still
>>>> for 2010 or maybe 2011.
>>>> No, something like this should not be done in a hurry, but neither
>>>> should it be procrastinated unnecessarily.
>>>>
>>>> =============
>>>> 4. CONCLUSION
>>>> =============
>>>>
>>>> Some people might think that this sounds totally crazy, but I am
>>>> convinced that we should give that opportunity a try...better sooner,
>>>> than later...
>>>>
>>>> The idea is there. You have the chance to discuss it anytime; be it on a
>>>> local/national/international event or on the net.
>>>> I know it sounds idealistic, but that's just how I am :)
>>>>
>>>> - cheers
>>>> patrick
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Amelia Andersdotter
>>> Lissabon-MEP
>>>
>>> +46 738436779
>>> www.ameliatillbryssel.se
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