[pp.int.general] Wikileaks : German "Young Liberals" declare war to the Pirate Party. | Junge Liberalen erklären in internem (geleaktem) Dokument der Piraten-Partei den Krieg, 6 Aug 2009

[Alex Foti]

i just find incredible that german liberals are posed to see their
votes grow: millions are unemployed due to the great recession, and
they're just proposing more of the same, i.e. market liberalization.
it's probably due to their astute leader (westervolle, is that the
name?) who knows how to speak with populist undertones, unlike the
spd, while pandering to big money interests. similarly, flat-tax frau
merkel is likely to get confirmed in office although her approach to
the crisis has been deflationary and eurosceptic to say the least.
hope german voters understand that vote for a CDU-FDP coalition is
voting for mass unemployment. tschuess, lx

On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 7:24 PM, fenhir<fenhir at pokerspieler.org> wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> Philip Hunt wrote:
>> 2009/8/8 fenhir <fenhir at pokerspieler.org>:
>>> The second point is IMHO, that the "grass-roots" of the JuLis know very
>>> good, that the FDP is an turn-over-party (in german: Umfallerpartei) in
>>> terms of civil rights. This is IMHO an ongoing conflict since years
>>> between the JuLis and their mother-party FDP.
>>
>> I'm not sure what you mean here.
>>
>> I *think* you're saying that the JuLis are in favour of civil rights,
>> but the FDP aren't, and the JuLis are therefore worried that the PP,
>> with their strong civil rihts agenda, will take support away from the
>> JuLis, and therefore votes from the FDP.
>
> Yes, this is my opinion. But just _my_ opinion. ;-)
>
> The JuLis have some more civil-rights-points in their program than the FDP.
>
> The FDP is split in people with free market-, business- and
> economic-liberal-ideas and people with more civil-rights- and
> social-liberal-ideas. Since about 1980 the economic-liberals are more
> and more dominant in the FDP. So civil-rights often lose, when the FDP
> is in a coalition with a more conservative party (like the german CDU).
>
> And when the FDP changes their mind about civil-rights in such a
> coalition, this is called "Umfallerpartei" vernacularly.
>
> Greetings,
> fenhir
>
> P.S.: All IMHO. There is no official name "Umfallerpartei" for the FDP. ;-)
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