[pp.int.general] Dutch platform internet security

Jeppe Winther jeppe.winther at piratpartiet.dk
Wed Dec 9 10:49:37 CET 2009


-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

Reinier Bakels wrote:
> Another fundamental question is whether chrild porn should really be
> forbidden. This topic is really a taboo: there is so much indignation
> about abusing children. But why is virtual (computer created) child porn
> also forbidden? Yesterday our minister explicitly referred to it. While
> previously the argument was that real and virtual porn is hard to
> distinguish. Now the minister said that it shows lack of respect towards
> children. No, I am not a pedosexual. But afaik pedoxexuality is like
> homosexuality in the sense that it happens to people unvolutarily and
> can not be cured. Would every pedosexual abuse children? I don't abuse
> women because they attract me. Like you can't "teach" homosexuals to be
> attracted by people of the opposite sex, you can not teach pedosexuals
> to "respect" children. I would argue that abundant virtual porn would
> rather prevent pedosexuals from abusing real children. DOn't
> constitutions typically forbid discrimination by sexual orientation?

Had a bit of a debate about this exact issue, the problems being, as you
said, that the crusade has shifted focus from sparing children indecent
treatment to banning indecent or "wrong" thoughts outright.

The problem with trying to push this agenda is that you risk becoming
the pedo party you spoke of, and get to spend all your time answering
nonsense questions from nutjobs about whether you support the mutilation
of children or not.
You are right, censorship should be fought no matter the nature of the
suppressed material, but I very much doubt making child pornography into
a pirate issue will further our cause any :)
This should be addressed in general terms; it should always be clear
that we oppose ALL forms of censorship, and that yes, this also includes
that of swastikas and childpornography.

/Jeppe Winther
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

iEYEARECAAYFAksfcq8ACgkQ7Z3uKdLAiHB2FwCfXhkRLcPzK3fi8bWtPTvHtz6j
ts0An1bZq1J+P2zki3GU4FjNUCItrVtC
=4wHE
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----


More information about the pp.international.general mailing list