[pp.int.general] Pirate Manifesto: PIRATA internal ballot, results

David Arcos david.arcos at gmail.com
Mon Jan 26 12:16:30 CET 2009


Reiniers,

so you are against/in disagreement with:
* the strategy
* the philosophy/principles
* the civil rights/human rights approach
* the copyright extension
* the transparency/accountability issue
* the manifesto, the amendments
* the "pirate" name

I'm getting it right?


On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Reinier Bakels <r.bakels at planet.nl> wrote:

> However we do have a strategy -look at the pirate parties at a glance-:
>>
>> http://int.piratenpartei.de/Pirate_Manifesto_parties_at_a_glance
>>
> Yes, I know, I know, and I *never* get tired to explain y position.
>
>>
>> - civil rights & liberties (privacy, freedom of speech, etc)
>>
> I explained why I do not endorse this issue as a PP strategy principle 1)
> it is indirect 2) it is obvious 3) it is ambiguous, and may also be used
> quite contrary to PPs objectives 4) it is overused
>
>> - enhancing freedom of information (encouraging the information society,
>>
> Without further substantiation, this is an empty statement everybody will
> subscribe to
>
>> changing the patent system, changing the author's rights system)
>>
> OK, this is more or less the core - but change is more a means to an end,
> and in a "manifesto" the end should be specified.
>
>> - public office transparency & accountability
>>
> I am strongly opposed against this objective, because (at least in a Dutch
> setting) this would put the PPs on one line with (usually far right wing)
> populist parties who blame the political system not to be responsive to the
> real needs of real people. In my perception, the problem is much simpler:
> the typical PP interests (e.g. og *users* of copyrighted works) are not
> properly represented in politics, which is probably to a large extent due to
> a lack of public awareness.
>
>>
>>  Again, many political parties prosper with only a few basic principles.
> And I am prepared to write the PPs pinciples - on just one A4 sheet.
>
> reinier
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