[pp.int.general] Protest certain musicians?

[Nicolas Sahlqvist]

Hmm, please disregard the "It does not concern to it however", was a copy
and paste mistake..

On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Nicolas Sahlqvist <nicco77 at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 7:02 AM, Christian Hufgard <pp at christian-hufgard.de
> > wrote:
>
>> Richard Stallman wrote:
>> >>     Then I must be expressing my intention wrong. The freedom to use
>> >>    everything everywhere everytime for free is a nice goal - but for me
>> >>    pretty irrelevant.
>> >
>> > Christian is evidently opposed to the Pirate Party's central goal.
>>
>> http://www.piratenpartei.de/navigation/politik/unsere-ziele
>>
>> Thanks to god, that the german piraty party does not define free
>> downloads as its primary goal but protecting the civil rights.
>>
>> I think you misunderstood us, taking the PPDE principles through Google
> translate gave:
>
> "We therefore call for the noncommercial copying, making available, storage
> and use of works not only legalized but explicitly to promote, to improve
> the general availability of information, knowledge and culture, since this
> is an essential prerequisite for the social, technological and economic
> advancement of our society."
>
> http://www.piratenpartei.de/navigation/politik/urheberrecht-und-nicht-kommerzielle-vervielfaeltigung
>
> It does not concern to it however
>
> Let's compare this to the Uppsala Declaration:
>
> "Copyright is commercial Copyright only regulates commercial activity.
> (Local law usually defines "commercial activity" in sufficient detail.)
> Non-commercial activity is never regulated by copyright law."
> http://int.piratenpartei.de/Uppsala_Declaration
>
> Also since PPSE inspired the formation of the other PP's and the Uppsala
> Declaration, let's compare:
>
> "A five years copyright term for commercial use is more than enough.
> Non-commercial use should be free from day one."
> http://www.piratpartiet.se/international/english
>
> The principles all agree that non-commercial copying should be allowed in
> contrast to your arguments about respect to the artist regardless if it is
> commercial or non-commercial use of copyrighted content.
>
> Maybe you were actually referring to commercial use of copyrighted content?
> We do not support that you can buy pirated copies of music and movies on the
> street like they do in Asia etc. nor any other commercial activity with
> copyrighted content while the copyright period has not expired.
>
> Furthermore, not even PPSE sees copyright as it's primary concern,
> the citizen's rights issues (privacy / integrity) are ALWAYS on the top of
> the agenda, i.e. they focus on the EU Telecom package (amendment 138/46
> etc.), FRA and IPRED etc. from a privacy point of view mainly. The effects
> on copyright are secondary as the blogs are full of arguments reflecting
> this, currently on the one on top  of live.piratpartiet.se (for the next
> 15 minutes maybe?) is a blog debating against IPRED contains the argument:
>
> "citizen's rights against the economic special interests"
>
> Where "citizen's rights" is the price of intrusion of privacy that is
> caused by "economic special interests", i.e the media industry's
> failing business model. This clearly shows that the primary concern is
> the citizen's rights rather then the copyright, i.e copyright comes
> secondary.
>
>
> - Nicolas
>   PPI / PPSE member
>
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