[pp.int.general] Protest certain musicians?

Christian Hufgard pp at christian-hufgard.de
Tue Nov 3 14:17:54 CET 2009


Hi Nicolas,

Nicolas Sahlqvist wrote:
>> Thanks to god, that the german piraty party does not define free
>> downloads as its primary goal but protecting the civil rights.
>>
> I think you misunderstood us, taking the PPDE principles through Google
> translate gave:
>
> "We therefore call for the noncommercial copying, making available,
> storage
> and use of works not only legalized but explicitly to promote, to improve
> the general availability of information, knowledge and culture, since this
> is an essential prerequisite for the social, technological and economic
> advancement of our society."
> http://www.piratenpartei.de/navigation/politik/urheberrecht-und-nicht-kommerzielle-vervielfaeltigung
>
> Let's compare this to the Uppsala Declaration:
>
> "Copyright is commercial Copyright only regulates commercial activity.
> (Local law usually defines "commercial activity" in sufficient detail.)
> Non-commercial activity is never regulated by copyright law."
> http://int.piratenpartei.de/Uppsala_Declaration
>
> Also since PPSE inspired the formation of the other PP's and the Uppsala
> Declaration, let's compare:
>
> "A five years copyright term for commercial use is more than enough.
> Non-commercial use should be free from day one."
> http://www.piratpartiet.se/international/english
>
> The principles all agree that non-commercial copying should be allowed in
> contrast to your arguments about respect to the artist regardless if it is
> commercial or non-commercial use of copyrighted content.

It's pretty intersting, that in the thread "3-step usage rights / forced
licensing model" moral rights are beeing defined. Also there have been
given examples, that five year commercial copyright might be not
sufficant. And nobody starts to flame the persons who write that...


> Maybe you were actually referring to commercial use of copyrighted
> content?
> We do not support that you can buy pirated copies of music and movies on
> the
> street like they do in Asia etc. nor any other commercial activity with
> copyrighted content while the copyright period has not expired.

Yeah, but reducing copyrights to five years will espacially harm smaller
rightholders. They loose their copyrights after five years and whatever
they produced can be produced cheaper by the big ones. Of course, for
consumers this is great. Also for the major labels... But what about the
artists? Today they still get money if a 10 year old copy of their work is
produced.


> This clearly shows that the primary concern is
> the citizen's rights rather then the copyright, i.e copyright comes
> secondary.

So there is a chance, that I still am a pirate, even if I respect the
creators wishes?

Christian



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