[pp.int.general] 3. Re: One good, one bad (Jerry Weyer)

[Richard Stallman]

    You can't just ignore and say "the  
    EU is an anti-democratic monster" when every single national  
    parliament of the member states of the EU ratified the treaty! The EU  
    never signed its own treaty, its national governments and national  
    parliaments.

If I recall right, one part of the EU rules adopted this way allows
trade treaties to be approved by a vote of ministers without even
submitting them to the national parliaments.

Even if that was adopted through a democratic procedure, it is
undemocratic in nature.

I think the EU is planning to impose the Anti-Citizens Treachery
Agreement (ACTA) on all countries; that will require the 3-strikes
HADOPI policy.  Thus, the Pirate Party will have to advocate either
defying ACTA or pulling out of ACTA.  Either one will mean defiance of
the EU.

To show that that is justified, one needs to denounce the EU as
unjust.  If you treat the EU as something that must always be
respected then you lose immediately.