[pp.int.general] Some parting thoughts

[Glenn Kerbein]

Eduardo,
	It's amazing how you can boil down a parting speech to only a few
sentences about lobby groups. It only epitomizes your naïveté.

Eduardo Robles Elvira wrote:
> In Spain it is currently legal to download copyrighted music or movies
> from p2p if it's for personal use, so if you want to download any
> artist's latest album you have the legal right to do so. And I should
> note that you should exercise your rights in the same way you exercise
> your muscles, to get them in shape.
> 
> Bottom line being, if something is illegal in your country it doesn't
> mean it's also illegal in the rest of the world. After reading your
> initial email I got the feeling that the FUD spread by the the
> anti-pirate lobby has really affected even to the people in PP-USA and
> that is really sad.
> 
> Regards,
>      Eduardo Robles Elvira (Member of PIRATA)
> 
>> El 18/10/2009 18:08, "Glenn Kerbein" <glenn.kerbein at pirate-party.us
>> <mailto:glenn.kerbein at pirate-party.us>> escribió:
>>
>> Jeremy Morton wrote: > Glenn Kerbein wrote: >> All, >> I am stepping
>> down as co-administrator ...
>>
>> Civil disobedience is one thing. Endorsing that you should download
>> Kayne West's latest album is another.
>> In before "Imma let you finish".
>>
>> >> Many of our European counterparts want to outright deny any >>
>> intelligent >> reasoning why f...
>>
>> I won't name names, as that would only incite further flamewars. I know
>> of two parties that do this sort of thing. Luckily, the PPUK is not one
>> of them.
>>
>> >> Simply saying "go ahead and do it, we can't stop you" only >>
>> exacerbates the issue. It leads to ...
>>
>> That's one vast and overbroad statement, sir. Not necessarily incorrect,
>> but also not wholly correct.
>>
>> > And honestly, what other more trenchant platforms do we have to
>> pursue? > We even gave ourselves ...
>>
>> Maybe you need a history lesson: we should pursue what ostensibly
>> amounts to the treading upon people's rights. The US PATRIOT Act is,
>> well, a popular and obvious target. We need to examine and deduce what
>> is wrong with copyright: not what is wrong with filesharing. Why is the
>> Grey Album disallowed and why does this run abet to our cultural past?
>> [I know the answer to both, but I won't elaborate].
>>
>> >> Secondly, the direction that a few of the PPs have been going may
>> not >> be in the best of i...
>>
>> Maybe. Maybe not. Perhaps you should re-read my argument.
>>
>> > > Best regards, > Jeremy Morton (Jez) >
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Glenn "Channel6" Kerbein
United States Pirate Party
"Burn, Hollywood, Burn"
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