[pp.int.general] The Pirate Bay and the Pirate Party

[Nicolas Sahlqvist]

"the 80-20% argument here seems to assume that everyone who fileshares will
automatically be willing to support any filesharing-related political
movement (or will even have the remotest interest in the politics behind it)
- this is not the case."

Of course not, there is a very little part of the general population that
would consider engaging in politics until election day when the interest is
peaking or we would have millions of members. The 80-20% argument refers to
these people in my opinion.

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Ed Galligan <ed.galligan at gmail.com> wrote:

> @Glenn Kerbein, @Brian McNeil
> Brian has stated that the GPS/knife analogy is "wrong in quite a number of
> ways" - and then continues by describing how bittorrent works and giving
> some (seemingly irrelevant) history of TPB's PR habits, neither of which
> demonstrated to me how the analogy is "wrong" in any way whatever.
>
> Despite that, I do think I'd have to side with rms and charly on this, not
> because I take issue with TPB, but simply because of the perception of us as
> "The Pirate Bay Party" - the 80-20% argument here seems to assume that
> everyone who fileshares will automatically be willing to support any
> filesharing-related political movement (or will even have the remotest
> interest in the politics behind it) - this is not the case.
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Brian McNeil <brian.mcneil at wikinewsie.org
> > wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 08:15 +0100, Nicolas Sahlqvist wrote:
>> > We are actually saying the same thing although I begun by leaving the
>> > % out
>> > of the picture, to make it clear we should not need to worry about the
>> > big
>> > masses that can not make a clear distinction between TPB and PP since
>> > most
>> > of our supporters are doing there research why the debate regarding
>> > the
>> > clear line of distinction between TPB and PP is overrated.
>>
>> I see one possible approach. A PP hosted/controlled landing page that is
>> aimed specifically at people using certain types of file sharing to
>> commit copyright infringement.
>>
>> You can clearly, and up-front, disavow any approval of copyright
>> infringement ("Don't join the Pirate Party if you just want free TV and
>> movies"), then present the aspects of PP philosophy that they might care
>> about. Most coming from somewhere like TPB will just leave, but you'd
>> net some.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Brian McNeil <brian.mcneil at wikinewsie.org>
>> http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Brian_McNeil
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