[pp.int.general] Environmentalists and pirates, free information perspective

Rodrigo Pereira rodripe at gmail.com
Mon Oct 26 19:12:03 CET 2009


2009/10/26 Jeppe Winther <jeppe.winther at piratpartiet.dk>

> On the plus side, newer computer technology tends to draw less power
> than it's older counterparts, even with increased clockspeeds, thanks to
> advances in microchips. Not that it makes it all well and good, but at
> least on the electrical side (CO2) new hardware is often more efficient.
>
> Agreed on the waste and fabrication, however.
>

Yes. http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/anton/computer-power-consumption.html

The popularity of portable computers tend to reduce energy consumption as
well.

The electrical energy consumption is linked to carbon emissions.



>
> Rodrigo Pereira wrote:
> > Promote free software as a green technology too. Proprietary software
> > always needs hardware upgrades and its create a lot of dangerous trash
> > of  "obsolete" hardware.
> >
> > Technological trash have a lot of dangerous chemical products that is
> > agresive to nature.
> > "Fast computers" that support windows 7 consumes much more energy and
> > consumes a lot of energy to manufacture  too.
> >
> > Rodrix
> >
> > 2009/10/26, Ed Galligan <ed.galligan at gmail.com>:
> >> I assume everyone's well aware of Toyota's alleged attempts to prevent
> >> competitors developing "green" technology (
> >> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124640553503576637.html )
> >>
> >> Whatever the specific relevance of that case, it is at least the kind of
> >> well recognisable brand/product that's easy to relate to when explaining
> to
> >> people the need for green technology transfer, and the dangers of
> >> restrictive commerce oriented patents.
> >>
> >>> I think there's another way in which Pirates can gain electorally from
> >>> the climate issue. Our core competency is on internet and copmuting
> >>> policy, and the internet and computers are seen as high technology.
> >>> Therefore it ought to be easy ofr PP to gain an imiage of being
> >>> comfortable with, understanding, and in favour of technology, and able
> >>> to propose appropriate technological solutions to making everyone's
> >>> lives better.
> >> Tele-commuting?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Rodrigo Pereira <rodripe at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>>  The transfer of green technology is similar to the problem of software
> >>> patents. Several tecnology use "parts" of other patented tecnology
> would
> >>> be
> >>> impossible to pay royalties. In the development of software,
> technological
> >>> transfer is essential.
> >>>
> >>> ?
> >>>
> >>> Rodrix
> >>> http://www.partidopirata.org
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2009/10/25 Amelia Andersdotter <teirdes at gmail.com>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 2009/10/24 Philip Hunt <cabalamat at googlemail.com>
> >>>>
> >>>> We might even be able to take votes from the greens on this. Green
> >>>>> parties are of course concerned about this issue, but the politicies
> >>>>> of some Green parties have a distinct anti-technological edge[1],
> >>>>> which turns off some voters. Pirate parties could pick up some of
> >>>>> those votes.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yes! Exactly!
> >>>> I also know for a fact it will make it easier for us to build broader
> >>>> alliance with a larger number of organisations: that also means we can
> >>>> get
> >>>> more benefits out of less work (hopefully), in terms of publicity and
> >>>> work
> >>>> done.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Amelia Andersdotter
> >>>> Kommunikationansvarig UPF
> >>>> Lissabon-MEP
> >>>> +46 738436779
> >>>>
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