[pp.int.general] an idea comes to me

[bakel362 at planet.nl]

I recall a lecture on the yearly German CCC conference about Open Hardware. You confirm again that there is a need for Open Hardware in addition to Open Software.
reinier

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Van: pp.international.general-bounces at lists.pirateweb.net namens Felipe Sanches
Verzonden: vr 25.09.2009 17:42
Aan: Aleksandar Blagojevic; Pirate Parties International -- General Talk
Onderwerp: Re: [pp.int.general] an idea comes to me


so... we need free software.

Are you aware that most of the wireless network adapters require non-free firmware (and also non-free driver in many cases) nowadays?

We need more wireless hackers engaging in the creation of this fundamental free software based technological support for such ideas!

Felipe Sanches


On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Aleksandar Blagojevic <piratska.partija.srbije at gmail.com> wrote:


	Hello Enrique,
	
	
	I think that we are shadowed by the modern ways of communication and do not
	see the the three out of woods.
	I other words, there is a strong dependency on commercial based solutions.
	The guideline for that way of thinking is "if I pay it has to work for me"
	even not knowing what it really is doin' it...
	
	the solution: global awareness:)
	here in Seriba the the main issue that members of Serbian pirate party are
	dealing with is to inform&learn the people about how stuff works.
	
	Only knowledge can free us all!
	
	
	
	
	
	Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 11:01:55 PM, you wrote:
	
	Enrique> history repeats itself ...
	
	
	Enrique> in middle age, information was controlled by the church, for it was they
	Enrique> who decided to be copied or edited, at that time, books were burned, who
	Enrique> dared to express an opinion not official, were accused him of heresy.
	Enrique> they had the monopoly on information.
	
	
	
	
	Enrique> today who seek to control information are the publishers and governments.
	
	Enrique> we face a new wave obscurantist, and as we call this new neo-obscurantism.
	
	
	
	Enrique> our actions must be put down this situation through different media,
	Enrique> (inter-net, traditional paper media, alternative networks)
	
	Enrique> , is that if there Internet2 (trained by universities), we could create
	Enrique> a "free network" using wireless systems, thus not depend on the ISP and
	Enrique> could exchange information freely.
	Enrique> challenges would be the interconnect between cities and between continents.
	Enrique>    but by that time, we must first free networks in cities.
	
	
	
	Enrique> in spanish
	Enrique> la historia se repite
	
	Enrique> en la edad media la informacion era controlada por la iglesia, pues eran
	Enrique> ellos que decidian que se copiaba o editaba,
	Enrique> en esa epoca se quemaban libros, quien osara emitir una opinion no
	Enrique> oficial, se lo sindicaba de hereje. ellos tenian el monopolio de la
	Enrique> informacion
	
	
	Enrique> hoy en dia quienes pretenden controlar la informacion son las editoras
	Enrique> y los gobiernos.
	
	Enrique> nos enfrentamos a una nueva oleada oscurantista, y como es nueva
	Enrique> la denominaremos neo-oscurantismo
	
	
	Enrique> nuestra accion debe estar en debelar esta situacion a traves de
	Enrique> diferentes medios, (inter-net, medios tradicionales de papel, redes
	Enrique> alternativas)
	
	Enrique> una idea que me surge, es que si existe internet2 (formadas por las
	Enrique> universidades), bien podriamos crear una "red libre" utilizando los
	Enrique> sistemas inalambricos, de esa forma no se dependeria de los ISP y se
	Enrique> podria intercambiar informacion libremente.
	Enrique> los desafios serian la forma interconectar entre ciudades y entre
	Enrique> continentes. pero para ese punto primero debemos tener redes libres en
	Enrique> las ciudades.
	Enrique> ____________________________________________________
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	Best regards,                       piratska.partija.srbije at gmail.com
	Aleksandar Blagojevic               admin at piratskapartija.com
	Serbian Pirte Party founder         http://piratskapartija.com/
	

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