[pp.int.general] an idea comes to me

[coretx]

"If you make something idiotproof, someone'll build a better idiot!"

This translates to : If we create a better hack, someone will create a  
idiotic law.

It's a endless cat & mouse game. I think that pirate party's should  
end this game, instead of creating new hacks.


On Sep 25, 2009, at 5:56 PM, <bakel362 at planet.nl> wrote:

> I recall a lecture on the yearly German CCC conference about Open  
> Hardware. You confirm again that there is a need for Open Hardware  
> in addition to Open Software.
> reinier
>
> ________________________________
>
> Van: pp.international.general-bounces at lists.pirateweb.net namens  
> Felipe Sanches
> Verzonden: vr 25.09.2009 17:42
> Aan: Aleksandar Blagojevic; Pirate Parties International -- General  
> Talk
> Onderwerp: Re: [pp.int.general] an idea comes to me
>
>
> so... we need free software.
>
> Are you aware that most of the wireless network adapters require non- 
> free firmware (and also non-free driver in many cases) nowadays?
>
> We need more wireless hackers engaging in the creation of this  
> fundamental free software based technological support for such ideas!
>
> Felipe Sanches
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Aleksandar Blagojevic <piratska.partija.srbije at gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>
>
> 	Hello Enrique,
> 	
> 	
> 	I think that we are shadowed by the modern ways of communication  
> and do not
> 	see the the three out of woods.
> 	I other words, there is a strong dependency on commercial based  
> solutions.
> 	The guideline for that way of thinking is "if I pay it has to work  
> for me"
> 	even not knowing what it really is doin' it...
> 	
> 	the solution: global awareness:)
> 	here in Seriba the the main issue that members of Serbian pirate  
> party are
> 	dealing with is to inform&learn the people about how stuff works.
> 	
> 	Only knowledge can free us all!
> 	
> 	
> 	
> 	
> 	
> 	Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 11:01:55 PM, you wrote:
> 	
> 	Enrique> history repeats itself ...
> 	
> 	
> 	Enrique> in middle age, information was controlled by the church,  
> for it was they
> 	Enrique> who decided to be copied or edited, at that time, books  
> were burned, who
> 	Enrique> dared to express an opinion not official, were accused him  
> of heresy.
> 	Enrique> they had the monopoly on information.
> 	
> 	
> 	
> 	
> 	Enrique> today who seek to control information are the publishers  
> and governments.
> 	
> 	Enrique> we face a new wave obscurantist, and as we call this new  
> neo-obscurantism.
> 	
> 	
> 	
> 	Enrique> our actions must be put down this situation through  
> different media,
> 	Enrique> (inter-net, traditional paper media, alternative networks)
> 	
> 	Enrique> , is that if there Internet2 (trained by universities), we  
> could create
> 	Enrique> a "free network" using wireless systems, thus not depend  
> on the ISP and
> 	Enrique> could exchange information freely.
> 	Enrique> challenges would be the interconnect between cities and  
> between continents.
> 	Enrique>    but by that time, we must first free networks in cities.
> 	
> 	
> 	
> 	Enrique> in spanish
> 	Enrique> la historia se repite
> 	
> 	Enrique> en la edad media la informacion era controlada por la  
> iglesia, pues eran
> 	Enrique> ellos que decidian que se copiaba o editaba,
> 	Enrique> en esa epoca se quemaban libros, quien osara emitir una  
> opinion no
> 	Enrique> oficial, se lo sindicaba de hereje. ellos tenian el  
> monopolio de la
> 	Enrique> informacion
> 	
> 	
> 	Enrique> hoy en dia quienes pretenden controlar la informacion son  
> las editoras
> 	Enrique> y los gobiernos.
> 	
> 	Enrique> nos enfrentamos a una nueva oleada oscurantista, y como es  
> nueva
> 	Enrique> la denominaremos neo-oscurantismo
> 	
> 	
> 	Enrique> nuestra accion debe estar en debelar esta situacion a  
> traves de
> 	Enrique> diferentes medios, (inter-net, medios tradicionales de  
> papel, redes
> 	Enrique> alternativas)
> 	
> 	Enrique> una idea que me surge, es que si existe internet2  
> (formadas por las
> 	Enrique> universidades), bien podriamos crear una "red libre"  
> utilizando los
> 	Enrique> sistemas inalambricos, de esa forma no se dependeria de  
> los ISP y se
> 	Enrique> podria intercambiar informacion libremente.
> 	Enrique> los desafios serian la forma interconectar entre ciudades  
> y entre
> 	Enrique> continentes. pero para ese punto primero debemos tener  
> redes libres en
> 	Enrique> las ciudades.
> 	Enrique> ____________________________________________________
> 	Enrique> Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> 	Enrique> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
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> 	
> 	
> 	
> 	--
> 	Best regards,                       piratska.partija.srbije at gmail.com
> 	Aleksandar Blagojevic               admin at piratskapartija.com
> 	Serbian Pirte Party founder         http://piratskapartija.com/
> 	
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