[pp.int.general] an idea comes to me

[Jeppe Winther]

Very much agreed.

This is a lack of imagination, and the fear of the unknown.
Trying to force a new reality on those who do not understand, on those who
do not agree yet will only result in a violent backlash.
The proper cause of action is education and opening the eyes of the
populace, and in turn those in power. This is, sadly, bloody slow and
painful, but altering the world in one fell swoop will most likely end in
tragedy and another turn for the worse.

Jeppe Winther,
Pirate Party of Denmark

On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 8:16 PM, coretx <coretx at piratenpartij.nl> wrote:

> "If you make something idiotproof, someone'll build a better idiot!"
>
> This translates to : If we create a better hack, someone will create a
> idiotic law.
>
> It's a endless cat & mouse game. I think that pirate party's should end
> this game, instead of creating new hacks.
>
>
>
> On Sep 25, 2009, at 5:56 PM, <bakel362 at planet.nl> wrote:
>
>  I recall a lecture on the yearly German CCC conference about Open
>> Hardware. You confirm again that there is a need for Open Hardware in
>> addition to Open Software.
>> reinier
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> Van: pp.international.general-bounces at lists.pirateweb.net namens Felipe
>> Sanches
>> Verzonden: vr 25.09.2009 17:42
>> Aan: Aleksandar Blagojevic; Pirate Parties International -- General Talk
>> Onderwerp: Re: [pp.int.general] an idea comes to me
>>
>>
>> so... we need free software.
>>
>> Are you aware that most of the wireless network adapters require non-free
>> firmware (and also non-free driver in many cases) nowadays?
>>
>> We need more wireless hackers engaging in the creation of this fundamental
>> free software based technological support for such ideas!
>>
>> Felipe Sanches
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Aleksandar Blagojevic <
>> piratska.partija.srbije at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>        Hello Enrique,
>>
>>
>>        I think that we are shadowed by the modern ways of communication
>> and do not
>>        see the the three out of woods.
>>        I other words, there is a strong dependency on commercial based
>> solutions.
>>        The guideline for that way of thinking is "if I pay it has to work
>> for me"
>>        even not knowing what it really is doin' it...
>>
>>        the solution: global awareness:)
>>        here in Seriba the the main issue that members of Serbian pirate
>> party are
>>        dealing with is to inform&learn the people about how stuff works.
>>
>>        Only knowledge can free us all!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>        Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 11:01:55 PM, you wrote:
>>
>>        Enrique> history repeats itself ...
>>
>>
>>        Enrique> in middle age, information was controlled by the church,
>> for it was they
>>        Enrique> who decided to be copied or edited, at that time, books
>> were burned, who
>>        Enrique> dared to express an opinion not official, were accused him
>> of heresy.
>>        Enrique> they had the monopoly on information.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>        Enrique> today who seek to control information are the publishers
>> and governments.
>>
>>        Enrique> we face a new wave obscurantist, and as we call this new
>> neo-obscurantism.
>>
>>
>>
>>        Enrique> our actions must be put down this situation through
>> different media,
>>        Enrique> (inter-net, traditional paper media, alternative networks)
>>
>>        Enrique> , is that if there Internet2 (trained by universities), we
>> could create
>>        Enrique> a "free network" using wireless systems, thus not depend
>> on the ISP and
>>        Enrique> could exchange information freely.
>>        Enrique> challenges would be the interconnect between cities and
>> between continents.
>>        Enrique>    but by that time, we must first free networks in
>> cities.
>>
>>
>>
>>        Enrique> in spanish
>>        Enrique> la historia se repite
>>
>>        Enrique> en la edad media la informacion era controlada por la
>> iglesia, pues eran
>>        Enrique> ellos que decidian que se copiaba o editaba,
>>        Enrique> en esa epoca se quemaban libros, quien osara emitir una
>> opinion no
>>        Enrique> oficial, se lo sindicaba de hereje. ellos tenian el
>> monopolio de la
>>        Enrique> informacion
>>
>>
>>        Enrique> hoy en dia quienes pretenden controlar la informacion son
>> las editoras
>>        Enrique> y los gobiernos.
>>
>>        Enrique> nos enfrentamos a una nueva oleada oscurantista, y como es
>> nueva
>>        Enrique> la denominaremos neo-oscurantismo
>>
>>
>>        Enrique> nuestra accion debe estar en debelar esta situacion a
>> traves de
>>        Enrique> diferentes medios, (inter-net, medios tradicionales de
>> papel, redes
>>        Enrique> alternativas)
>>
>>        Enrique> una idea que me surge, es que si existe internet2
>> (formadas por las
>>        Enrique> universidades), bien podriamos crear una "red libre"
>> utilizando los
>>        Enrique> sistemas inalambricos, de esa forma no se dependeria de
>> los ISP y se
>>        Enrique> podria intercambiar informacion libremente.
>>        Enrique> los desafios serian la forma interconectar entre ciudades
>> y entre
>>        Enrique> continentes. pero para ese punto primero debemos tener
>> redes libres en
>>        Enrique> las ciudades.
>>        Enrique> ____________________________________________________
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>>        Enrique> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
>>        Enrique>
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>>
>>
>>
>>        --
>>        Best regards,
>> piratska.partija.srbije at gmail.com
>>        Aleksandar Blagojevic               admin at piratskapartija.com
>>        Serbian Pirte Party founder         http://piratskapartija.com/
>>
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