[pp.int.general] The conference - what went wrong; how can we do better?

[Błażej Kaczorowski]

If we want PPI really international now European we need to change it
to federation - now it is organization.

Blazej
PP Poland

On 21 April 2010 17:54, Justus Ršoemeth <squig at dfpx.de> wrote:
> I didn't say it was perfect in Brussels. I just tried to point out that by
> pushing it towards the Americas you are pulling it away from Oceania. May be
> easier to keep it at local working times and just expect the other people to
> get up earlier or stay up longer. Trying to make it best for the Americas
> and Europe is counterproductive in my opinion.
>
> On 21.04.10 17:31, Andrew Norton wrote:
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>> On 4/21/2010 11:08 AM, Justus R?oemeth wrote:
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>>>
>>> But those times are really unfortunate for remote participation of
>>> places like NZ and AUS.
>>> I don't think we'll be able to find a solution here that works for
>>> everyone perfectly.
>>>
>>
>> The current times were pretty exclusionary as well. at GMT+10, you were
>> looking at starting around 6pm(9am) and ending at what, 3am (7pm)? not
>> THAT bad, but not that great either.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On 21.04.10 14:57, Andrew Norton wrote:
>>> On 4/21/2010 3:49 AM, Wolfgang Preiss wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As it comes to the other points you mentioned, there is hardly I can
>>>>>> say, I only can express an opinion there. As for time planning, the
>>>>>> conference is being planned as it fits best local time. Although this
>>>>>> means for the remote deligates to sit at 3am or earlier at the
>>>>>> computer,
>>>>>> it is much easier to handle for them to do so, than for the larger
>>>>>> number of deligates at the conference to adapt to the time wishes of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> remote deligates. After all these can benefit participating from their
>>>>>> homes. After the majority of PPI members is located in europe that is
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> burden for the deligates in other time zones to carry. Sorry :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not talking about a major shift, like starting at 4pm and going
>>> until 2am local, I'm talking about maybe starting at 12 noon, finishing
>>> at 7/8. 3 hours can make a fair bit of difference. Then the social stuff
>>> can be done in the AM (and still at night). now a meeting held in the
>>> Americas would benefit from an early start, say 8-9am, so that its not
>>> too late for European remotes.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wolfgang
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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