[pp.int.general] The conference - what went wrong; how can we do better?

Rodrigo Pereira rodripe at gmail.com
Wed Apr 21 20:37:57 CEST 2010


2010/4/21 Nicolas Sahlqvist <nicco77 at gmail.com>

> I tend to think that the form of PPI will not make it more or less
> international, it is rather the way we push for PPI to become more
> international and that is a challenge considering most PP's are located
> within Europe. Any ideas how we make PP's more popular in Latin America,
> Asia, Africa and Caribbean?
>
>
>
I have a suggestion. Give EUR 500 not only for Europeans but for the
delegates from outside Europe too and you will have enough "interest" of the
delegates from other countries to attend a "international" conference.

No more,

Rodrix
Brazilian Pirate Party.




> - Nicolas
>   PPI
>
>
> 2010/4/21 Błażej Kaczorowski <blazej.kaczorowski at gmail.com>
>
> If we want PPI really international now European we need to change it
>> to federation - now it is organization.
>>
>> Blazej
>> PP Poland
>>
>> On 21 April 2010 17:54, Justus Ršoemeth <squig at dfpx.de> wrote:
>> > I didn't say it was perfect in Brussels. I just tried to point out that
>> by
>> > pushing it towards the Americas you are pulling it away from Oceania.
>> May be
>> > easier to keep it at local working times and just expect the other
>> people to
>> > get up earlier or stay up longer. Trying to make it best for the
>> Americas
>> > and Europe is counterproductive in my opinion.
>> >
>> > On 21.04.10 17:31, Andrew Norton wrote:
>> >>
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>> >> On 4/21/2010 11:08 AM, Justus R?oemeth wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> But those times are really unfortunate for remote participation of
>> >>> places like NZ and AUS.
>> >>> I don't think we'll be able to find a solution here that works for
>> >>> everyone perfectly.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> The current times were pretty exclusionary as well. at GMT+10, you were
>> >> looking at starting around 6pm(9am) and ending at what, 3am (7pm)? not
>> >> THAT bad, but not that great either.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 21.04.10 14:57, Andrew Norton wrote:
>> >>> On 4/21/2010 3:49 AM, Wolfgang Preiss wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> As it comes to the other points you mentioned, there is hardly I
>> can
>> >>>>>> say, I only can express an opinion there. As for time planning, the
>> >>>>>> conference is being planned as it fits best local time. Although
>> this
>> >>>>>> means for the remote deligates to sit at 3am or earlier at the
>> >>>>>> computer,
>> >>>>>> it is much easier to handle for them to do so, than for the larger
>> >>>>>> number of deligates at the conference to adapt to the time wishes
>> of
>> >>>>>> the
>> >>>>>> remote deligates. After all these can benefit participating from
>> their
>> >>>>>> homes. After the majority of PPI members is located in europe that
>> is
>> >>>>>> a
>> >>>>>> burden for the deligates in other time zones to carry. Sorry :-)
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm not talking about a major shift, like starting at 4pm and going
>> >>> until 2am local, I'm talking about maybe starting at 12 noon,
>> finishing
>> >>> at 7/8. 3 hours can make a fair bit of difference. Then the social
>> stuff
>> >>> can be done in the AM (and still at night). now a meeting held in the
>> >>> Americas would benefit from an early start, say 8-9am, so that its not
>> >>> too late for European remotes.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Regards
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Wolfgang
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>
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