[pp.int.general] How PPI should look like - our humble opinion

[Błażej Kaczorowski]

Maybe it is time to discuss our proposals?

At least conciser them.

kaczor

2010/4/18 Robert Mitwicki <robert.mitwicki at partiapiratow.org.pl>:
> The international conference should be the start of creating PPI not
> the end ... We all know that we put work with the PPI statue remotely
> but You can't decide real principles without   meeting like today.
> Until yesterday international meeting were about meeting people talk
> to them, exchange knowledge and experience not 11h voting. Principles
> were broken, because of that. We need to find solution of this
> problem.
>
> And one more ... never is too late !
>
> PP Poland
>
> 2010/4/17 W Tovey <will.tovey at pp-international.net>
>> I hope some of the issues raised in this have been sorted out in the
>> final version of the statutes as approved earlier this evening or are
>> left to the secondary rules/guidelines such as the procedures for the
>> general assembly/conference. As I hope was made clear during the
>> discussions (and I apologies if it wasn't) the statutes agreed on today
>> are more the rough technicalities of how PPI operates, not the grand
>> ideals of the Pirate Movement, nor the exact details of the day-to-day
>> running of it. I did try to make sure that all concerns raised were
>> discussed and, if possible addressed.
>>
>> I would expect that the first PPI Board voted tomorrow is able to work
>> with you (and all other Pirates and Parties) in ensuring PPI operates in
>> a way as close as possible to what we would like. Obviously, the best
>> way to make sure this happens would be to stand in the election; do this
>> by emailing me or the Coreteam with your name and the position(s) for
>> which you would like to stand by 8.30 CEST (6.30 GMT). If you are not
>> able to attend the conference (either in person or remotely) you might
>> also want to include some short comments as to why people should vote
>> for you.
>>
>> The positions available are; Co-chairman, Chief Administrative Officer,
>> Treasurer and Board member.
>>
>> -Will
>>
>> On 17/04/2010 22:50, Justus Ršoemeth wrote:
>>> A bit late, isn't it? I mean there was a chance to work on the
>>> statutes online, and/or send a different proposal for statutes for
>>> months...
>>>
>>> And what exactly makes a country being spokesman better than a system
>>> that has an elected board not neccessarly from the national
>>> spokespersons? I think most pirate parties agree on the last point,
>>> but what exactly makes this proposal superior to the one that is being
>>> discussed at the conference at the moment? What parts of the one being
>>> discussed at the moment makes you feel uneasy as to the last point?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 17.04.10 18:01, Błażej Kaczorowski wrote:
>>>> What should PPI look like:
>>>> - conference at least once a year, delegates (or delegate) would
>>>> represent each county
>>>> - on each conference we elect country, that will be spokemen for
>>>> national parties untill next conference, though the constituent
>>>> parties will have the right to recall.
>>>> - once a month delegates (chosen by national parties) meets remotly
>>>> (IRC) and discuss interentional cases - amendments and ideas are
>>>> presented to boards in every country
>>>> - spokemen country can't make any binding decision without contact to
>>>> national parties boards (it can also call for immediet IRC gathering
>>>> to get proper confirmation)
>>>> - working groups will be ellected on confernece to perform maitenece
>>>> tasks untill next conference (webpage etc.)
>>>> - Funds will be given from member parties on a "need's be" basis, for
>>>> example money from parties to fund conference.
>>>> - All local parties commit to provide the financial means, within
>>>> their capablities and if needed, to make funding of the annual meeting
>>>> possible.
>>>> - We want to see PPI as a united federation of international Pirate
>>>> Parties, not a centralised global pirate party.
>>>>
>>>> http://wiki.partiapiratow.org.pl/index.php?title=Propozycja
>>>>
>>>> Blazej and Robert from Poland
>>>>
>>>> Tess and Ella from Sweden
>>>>
>>>> Andrew from UK
>>>>
>>>> Monika nad Jurgen from Belgum
>>>>
>>>> Christian from Romania
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