[pp.int.general] Media stupidity Re: Pirate support for Wikileaks

[Amelia Andersdotter]

On 4 December 2010 19:02, Jay Emerson <jemers2 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Good speech, I'll do research on the media conglomerates that may be
> influencing such spin at these publications and shine a light on them
> through the superpowers of blog syndication.
>
> If you know who owns that publication let me know please :-)
>
>
I can already help you with that. http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expressen

Expressen is owned by the Bonnier conglomerat which owns about 80% of all
Swedish media, including Dagens Nyheter and Sydsvenskan, the two largest
publications after Svenska dagbladet and Aftonbladet one of which is owned
by Schibstedt (Norwegian conglomerate which holds large stakes in Norwegian
media I believe) and LO (the union of most public worker labour unions).

All Bonnier publications are going down. Expressen and Dagens nyheter have
been going tabloid since several years ago, and Bonnier is more and more
appearing to imitate the Murdoch empire. I'm not really sure what to do
about that though - I know that the non-Bonnier publications are mostly held
afloat by the Swedish media support system (which, to be fair, also helps
Bonnier) which has recently been condemned by the European Court of Justice
for distorting the market. Mark my words - when it goes, so do all
non-Bonnier publications.

/a


> Jay Emerson
> Administrative Officer
> Pirate Party of New York
> On Dec 4, 2010 12:29 PM, "Amelia Andersdotter" <teirdes at gmail.com> wrote:
> > If something can be said about the current situation of Wikileaks founder
> > Julian Assange it is that a Swedish newspaper, Expressen, has consistenly
> > and deliberately published names and pictures of people who are not yet
> > convicted, and to whom a primary investigation have not even been
> started.
> >
> > This is the third time Expressen has engaged in this conduct since 2006.
> The
> > difference this time is that very few paper, primarily international
> media,
> > has managed to criticize this behaviour which essentially leads to
> primary
> > conviction by the populace and lynchmobs rather than a fair trial by a,
> > presumably, non-partisan court.
> >
> > I think that especially in criminal cases this conduct is despicable and
> an
> > unethical exploitation of media and press freedom to bypass the legal
> > system. I criticize Expressen generally though. They are a bad
> publication
> > and anyone who supports them should be slightly ashamed.
> >
> > /a
> >
> > On 4 December 2010 18:20, Amelia Andersdotter <teirdes at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On 4 December 2010 12:17, Mikulas.Ferjencik <
> Mikulas.Ferjencik at seznam.cz>wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I would like to note, that PPI is not supposed to issue Press releases,
> so
> >>> it is more appropriate to prepare a press release, which can separate
> PPs
> >>> endorse. It would also be good to include what do respective PPs do to
> >>> support wikileaks.
> >>>
> >>
> >> The Swedish Pirate Party and myself do not support Wikileaks as such,
> but
> >> leaking and leaking services in general (including OpenLeaks, cryptome
> and
> >> the newly formed Serbian project for leaks). We would like to see an
> >> inclusive statement that considers the benefit over whistleblowers in
> >> general, and not a specific service for this purpose.
> >>
> >> Wikileaks can certainly be exemplified, but it is important that they do
> >> not get to represent the entire leaking community, and especially that
> they
> >> do not overshadow the brave men and women who make sure the leaks get
> out
> >> there in the first place.
> >>
> >> Amelia Andersdotter
> >>
> >>
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