[pp.int.general] PPI's Consultation process and principles

[Jorge]

Hi Patrick,

Thanks for you reply.

And about public consultation? Why we don't try to open the possibility 
of participation to the pirates wideworld?

All the best,

Jorge


Patrick Mächler escreveu:
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Jorge <jorge at pirataria.org> wrote:
>   
>> 1) Thinking about the PPs troubles that we had recently in the list, I
>> suggest a colaborative elaboration of some PRINCIPLES to Pirate Parties. I
>> mean the basic commitments that we have to take.
>>
>> We don't need a complicated process to write it. I think we know more or
>> less the basic. I start a draft
>> http://int.piratenpartei.de/Building_the_principles_of_PPI
>>     
>
> Of course I'd be in favor of it.
> I just want to warn you that it might be likely become complicated again.
> Similar approaches have failed before (which ofc does not imply that
> this one has to fail as well).
>
>   
>> 2) Concerning the PPI new name "Pirate Parties International", I noticed
>> that the most of pirates continues to refer to PPI as Pirate Party
>> International. We did not have enough discussion about this change. The most
>> activists of pirate activists reffer to PPI as "Pirate Party International"
>> because sounds much better and they recognize that we are part of
>> international movement with the same aims, no matter national or regional
>> differences.
>>     
>
> The decision was also based on the fact that Rick Falkvinge intended
> this name originally. Just take a look at the name of this list.
> We needed a name to refer to PPI; as we saw that the "Party" name
> stirred irritation amongst some parties, we decided to use "Pirate
> Parties International" instead. You are free to discuss this issue at
> the conference; we won't change the name before the conference for
> sure though.
>
>   
>> I understand that the former name suggest a great of responsabilities that
>> the coreteam are not ready to take. But it could change after the PPI
>> Conference.
>>     
>
> PPI can't enforce any principles, nor is it in any way interested in
> taking part in elections.
> If it would, you could be sure not a lot of parties would join it.
>
>   
>> Finally, I noticed that there are links in the PPI'site to pirate parties
>> that do not exist yet, like China or South Africa; or fake site, like Peru
>> (with a offensive message against us). Who are that guys? We have to cheke
>> better before to include a new PP in our network.
>>     
>
> There were people from China and South Africa in the PPI boards asking
> for startup help; I provided them a sub-board to discuss and linked it
> afterwards. In my view it's of utter most importance for PPI to
> centralize efforts in any country in order to avoid situations with
> several disputing groups afterwards. See also
> http://int.piratenpartei.de/Best_practices_for_creating_a_party
> About Peru: Take a look at the wiki history; this wiki page has been
> defaced. I'll try to roll it back and get in contact with those
> providing the wiki.
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