[pp.int.general] [Algemeen] Nederland Elections?

Arjen Halma arjen at halma.nl
Fri Jun 11 21:57:01 CEST 2010

Dear Nicolas,

Thanks for your nice email. We are very proud. We have a meeting on Sunday, and then we need to tell each other what we did was not an failure but something to be very proud off.

We kicked ass :) And next time we are back kicking ass again !!! :)


Arjen Halma

On Jun 11, 2010, at 4:13 PM, Nicolas Sahlqvist wrote:

> Wesley,
> It is good to learn from your mistakes, but it is not your fault that you had an extremely short preparation time of a little over 3 months (111 days) due to the unforeseen collapse of the Dutch cabinet on the 20th of February:
> http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2010/02/cabinet_collapses_as_labour_pu_1.php
> I think we should also learn by our successes so let's look at there positive track record. In the week that followed the collapse of the cabinet, the Dutch Pirates (Piratenpartij) came up from there dormant rest and first questioned there chances of even being able to participate. They decided at the end of February that it was better to take the chance then letting it pass:
> http://lists.piratenpartij.nl/pipermail/algemeen/2010-February/000087.html
> There activity practically exploded within the party and on the 4th of March they asked for donations on a international front for a total of 12200 Euro in order to officially register the party and participate in the elections:
> http://lists.pirateweb.net/pipermail/pp.international.general/2010-March/006086.html
> It proven much more effective to get local donations and they worked hard on getting there administration properly setup (setting up the board, electing a chairman, starting weekly national meetings AFK etc.) + meetings online and on the 11th they officially registered the party:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxW5WR39BNA
> They worked hard on enforcing there local, youth organisation and activist movement. The election campaign always had highest priority and several excellent campaign clips were made, with the last one from a established artist promoting there message in his video / song:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXPLJJO9w5M
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEdvHpLXIyM
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_yPvdSZYlk
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvFqUchqToU
> There activity sent such shock waves through the movement and Rickard Falkvinge, the founder of the first pirate party (Piratpartiet in Sweden), visited the Netherlands on the 7th of June to give them a boost and follow there potentially historical success on site:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqeGCr5RD2Y
> So why did they not get a seat? 
> It takes a lot of time to get our issues into the non pirate members head as the lady in the clip mentioned. She was unsure what Piratenpartij stood for since there message had not reached her. I am not too surprised since I even meet people in Sweden who signed up for Piratpartiet believing it was just some online community and others that was not aware that they could vote for Piratpartiet in the upcoming election on the 19th of September.
> The established parties driving issues like job, childcare, healthcare, security and environment etc. have a commercial propaganda machine driving TV channels and newspapers that we are struggling with activists to beat. The Dutch pirates only had 111 days to get it rolling so it would have been a miracle to get a seat to be honest, but everyone in the movement were still hoping for it although it is normal for pirate parties to get a fraction of a percentage in there first election. It is however necessary to keep on the track and it motivates activists to start up parties around the globe.
> I hope that Piratenpartij will not allow itself to get dormant again and forget all the potential activists among the 10413 voters (0.1%). They now have to find those activists in order to boost the movement to get there message out long before the next election that will probably be in just a couple of years rather then 4 years considering the stability of the last two coalitions in Netherlands:
> http://www.verkiezingensite.nl/tk2010/
> We pirates need to be seen more, not just be on the streets a few months before the elections, rather promote our ideas through all channels available to us in the logical and physical world as much as we can or we will end up becoming forgotten long before the next election comes up. We need to discuss how to get our message out, the importance of all our communication channels such as being seen on the streets, letters to news editors, opinion articles and blogs etc. We are rather good with the later ones while many of us tends to be a bit anti-social nerds so kinda shy of meeting people and there arguments in the physical world so I tend to think this is where we need to improve our communication skills in order to expose our message.
> - Nicolas
> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Wesley Schwengle <wesley at schwengle.net> wrote:
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> On 06/10/2010 05:08 PM, Raymond Häb wrote:
> > Partido Pirata Argentino schrieb:
> >> how did it go?
> >
> > 0.1% (10.413)
> > http://www.verkiezingensite.nl/tk2010/
> http://depiratenpartij.wordpress.com/2010/06/10/to-fail-or-not-to-fail-piratenpartij-2-0/
> I hope to be able to post a more detailed overview of the Dutch campaign
> so all of you can learn from our mistakes.
> Cheers,
> Wesley
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