[pp.int.general] Court Decision - Equitable Remuneration

boboniboni boboniboni boboniboni at gmail.com
Mon Nov 1 16:58:25 CET 2010


I agree with Kenneth. It's not about being a communist. The pareto effiency
of the current state or model is not creating equal equitable remuneration
or resources allocation.

On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 12:19 PM, <kenneth at contralaguerra.org> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Personally, I am not favorable to the introduction of a flat-rate tax, in
> fact, I am against most indirect taxes.
>
> The spanish law allows people to share any cultural good without being a
> crime, whilst there's no trading on it. In short, p2p is not illegal.
>
> On the other hand, we have SGAE&co sucking our blood with foolish royalties
> (even hairdressers pay them!) but it has been demonstrated that less than 5%
> of the artists afiliated to this non-state monopoly receive some cash from
> SGAE, and SGAE expends (at least, 'cause their accounting isn't public) 50%
> of their earnings in renting offices and paying spots, making it clear that:
>
>    1.- Introducing a flat-rate tax would only add some taxes to people
> under the spanish law, so, we will only loose money.
>
>    2.- Current remuneration schema doesn't help at all to most authors and
> we do still have cultural goods, so, authors survive without this purposed
> compensatory model.
>
>    3.- Flat-rate taxes are against equal opportunity, as extremely poor
> people might be excluded, or the state might give them "cultural welfare
> checks", which is only a way to raise taxes to middle classes.
>
>    4.- If an industry is obsolete it has 2 options: change or extinguish. I
> am not going to give welfare checks to slave traders, IMHO they must simply
> extinguish.
>
>
>
> The culture existed before trade, so culture is not a good, it's a gift.
>
> We live in a planet where 97% of the money exists only in electronic
> records, and 95% of all the money belongs to less than 100.000 persons and7
> Billion survive with the remaining 5% of the cash, introducing more taxes to
> those whom don't own the planet is not only unfair but also dumb.
>
> Don't ask the pyramid builders to pay more taxes to listen some music, ask
> the pharaoh to give away part of its gold so all we can have some music!
>
> And, btw, I am not a commie :P I just focus on what it's crazy, if you want
> to raise  cash to support culture, make taxes fair and then, use the
> collected money in the best way you can.
>
>
>
> Introducing uniform solutions into unbalanced systems just keeps the system
> unbalanced.
>
>
>
> Warm wishes,
>
> Kenneth
>
>
>
> On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 11:52:17 -0200, Rodrigo Pereira <
> rodrigo2kpereira at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> 2010/11/1 Richard Stallman <rms at gnu.org>
>
>>    Perhaps, if flat rate replace copyright monopoly, probably is more
>> useful
>>    use the money to support cultural programs in general than copyright
>>    industry. If copyright run together this new tax, I don't know a reason
>> to
>>    support this tax.
>>
>> The idea is that one new law would legalize file sharing (including on
>> the Internet) and establish this new tax.
>>
>>     So, I think is priority in Brazil, first,
>>    the decriminalization of copyright infringement, not impose a new tax
>> to
>>    people.
>>
>> The idea is that the new tax makes possible the decriminalization (and
>> legalization) of sharing copies.  Thus, sharing would no longer be
>> infringement.
>>
>  So, need to remove Berne Convention:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_Convention_for_the_Protection_of_Literary_and_Artistic_Works
>
> I had a hope in CUBA, unfortunately they signed...
>
> I have a belief that filesharing legalized do not hurts culture, in
> contrary, so isn't necessary a new tax to balance the "lack of culture
> development". For example, many speeches of industry is that filesharing is
> killing culture or piracy is killing music or home cooking is killing
> restaurant industry... This is not true. And I would no longer feed this bankrupt
> industry.
>
>
>
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