[pp.int.general] Deportations of Latin Americans in Europe

[Amelia Andersdotter]

On 11/12/2010 10:56 PM, Justus Römeth wrote:
> Aren't there also Roma from the Balkans who 'pose a problem' (as in
> accoring to the respective conservative groups) in Italy and Spain?
>

All Roma pose problems according to the regimes in Italy and France,
since they're going for an ethnicity based approach to crime rather than
economic or social approach. The Balkans Roma are easier to deport based
on their citizenships though - you're not generally allowed to immigrate
to the EU from the Balkans. If  you're from Romania or Bulgaria,
however, you /should/ be included in the "freedom of movement for
persons" clauses in the framework treaties. I guess that's what the
Commission has been saying too.

>
> On 12.11.10 20:10, kenneth at contralaguerra.org wrote:
>> Gipsys are deported in France, not in Spain. Again I mistrust about
>> the source....
>>

Eduardo is saying that Argentinians and Latin Americans get deported
from Spain and cites many sources for this. Spain's not like an
international immigrant do-gooder. On the contrary, the Spanish border
police and collaboration with the FRONTEX authorities are receiving
heavy criticism from human rights organisations for being cruel to
non-European immigrants from Africa, Latin America, etc.

On the other hand, Latin American immigration in Spain is not without
problems either. Domestically abused women in Spain are predominantly of
Latin American descent (I've heard) and in times of economic crisis they
tend to be the first ones that end up without jobs (generally speaking -
it's not a rule without a shitload of exceptions).

/a

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>>
>> ----- Reply message -----
>> From: "Partido Pirata Argentino" <ppirataargentino at gmail.com>
>> Date: Fri, Nov 12, 2010 3:52 pm
>> Subject: [pp.int.general] Deportations of Latin Americans in Europe
>> To: <pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net>
>>
>> > First of all, I am completely against any deportation,  however I doubt
>> > about this information for.2 reasons:
>> >
>> > 1) A journalist is deported and he publishes it in boogspot instead
>> of.the
>> > journal itself.
>> >
>> > 2) romanians can't.be deported in spain because they are EU citizens.
>> >
>>
>>
>> Well many gipsys was eropean citizens too...
>>
>> The journalist went to Spain to investigated the deportations, he put
>> an advance in:
>>
>> http://orsai.bitacoras.com/2010/11/el-limbo-desde-dentro.php
>>
>>
>>
>> The magazin "Orsai" will be published in January 2011..
>>
>> Deported argentinian citizens  from Spain:
>>
>> http://www.lanacion.com.ar/nota.asp?nota_id=1316615
>>
>> http://www.clarin.com/diario/2009/08/11/um/m-01976430.htm
>>
>> Ilegal detention of an argentinan in Barcelona:
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqK_xr-88Xw
>>
>>
>> http://www.pagina12.com.ar/diario/sociedad/3-116306-2008-12-08.html
>> (2008)
>>
>> http://canallatino.tv/x2/index.php?id=2&seccion=3&noticia=1791
>> <http://canallatino.tv/x2/index.php?id=2&seccion=3&noticia=1791>
>> Uruguay
>>
>> A woman deported from Spain:
>>
>> http://partido-pirata.blogspot.com/2009/04/mas-turismo-en-el-partido-pirata.html
>>
>> http://partido-pirata.blogspot.com/2008/12/si-vas-para-espaa.html
>>
>> http://www.pagina12.com.ar/diario/elpais/1-116664-2008-12-14.html
>>
>> And more links.....
>>
>> Best Regards.
>>
>> Eduardo.
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