[pp.int.general] PPi ask Anonymous to stop Payback

[Choms]

Ok, as I see, you are playing at two bands, you are part of Payback, maybe you hare gaging because some guy of payback kicked you from IRC.

Stop playing two bands and tell in public your Payback nick...

Also, you think I'm afraid that you say my name in public? It's that a kind of threat?

On this moment I ask you for your resignation on USPP, and a public retract of all things you have been said. This is unacceptable, that you insult people on that way.

Also, I'm not talking about DDoS attacks, if you don't know, people on anonops decided to stop DDoS attacks before your letter, that seems to be written by MPAA. That letter only shows payback as criminals (when they aren't) and, because that letter, now people are thinking on continue attacking... you have fucked up lot of hard work, and a great project.

Have a nice day.

El 20/11/2010, a las 18:48, Andrew Norton escribió:

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> On 11/20/2010 12:04 PM, Choms wrote:
>> Make a favor to the world and STFU, wait for my real reply, and STOP
>> calling "scriptkiddies", "morons" and "inmatures" to people who  in 2
>> months have made more than all your party in... how many years? really
>> don't know.
> 
> Made more what? Trouble for all of us?
> Excuses to pass laws we're all against?
> destroy any kind of public sympathy for our cause?
> 
>> 
>> WAIT for my real reply, also, you seems to be *rule 1&2* looking at your
>> language (moron, moralfag, scriptkiddie)
> 
> Here's the facts, Sergio Gonzalez.
> They committed Crimes.
> They have done NOTHING POSITIVE, except by accident (the ACS leak was a
> mistake by their IT guy, in part caused by the DDOS, yut had the IT guy
> done nothing, nothing would have happened)
> They have hurt our cause
> ANY actions they have done, are fleetingly ephemeral. Great, they took a
> website offline for a few hours. Oh dear, what a calamity.
> 
> They have inconvenienced their targets, slightly. They have ACTIVELY
> hurt the actions and activities of the parties, through their stupid,
> ill-considered actions, committed in a fit of pique, or because it's 'fun'.
> 
> They have no real desire to actually DO anything. It's' simple to load a
> little program, enter in an IP address and hit a button. Big deal. It's
> a LOT harder to come out from behind the hiding, and work openly,
> legitimately, and effectively.
> 
> They're cowards, incapable of doing anything effective, or worthwhile.
> 
> BTW, they've proved my point of being childish kids with temper tantrums.
> " Channel Topic: Open letter to us from Pirate Parties:
> http://3.ly/torrfrk (also, Andrew Norton (72.152.11.213) said we are
> "scriptkiddies, morons and inmature") | Let's decide what to do, attact
> USPP?"
> 
> That WAS my ip address, it's now changed :-)
> 
> foolish kids. I'm not afraid of a bunch of online wannabe gangsters -
> hell the ones who were in my neighborhood growing up didn't bother me,
> and they could actually do something to me, and their scriptkiddie
> threats (what else do you call what they've done? "load up your LOIC and
> target xxx" sounds a HELL of a lot like 'run their script set at..." aka
> SCRIPTKIDDIES
> 
> Pathetic really.
> 
> Andrew Norton
> Not afraid and hiding behind proxys, pseudonyms or anything else (unlike
> a lot of scriptkiddies) because they are nothing to be afraid of. Just
> like none of their targets are afraid of them, but gladly using them as
> an excuse to pass legislation.
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> El 20/11/2010, a las 17:56, Andrew Norton escribió:
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>>> On 11/20/2010 11:50 AM, Choms wrote:
>>>> Well, I really don't want to reply... I'm waiting the response of some
>>>> people... but I really don't like the response of Andrew Norton...
>>> 
>>> That is your choice, but the choice is simple,
>>> 
>>> You can either run around like a moron, doing DDOS attacks and help push
>>> through censorship legislation, or you can ask them to stop, and try and
>>> work on something productive.
>>> 
>>> It's the choice between acting like a moronic kid throwing a tantrum, or
>>> acting like a grown up. It's THAT simple.
>>> 
>>> BTW, most o:p won't support the pirate parties regardless - it requires
>>> them to be too responsible, and grown up. The immature can't handle
>>> being held responsible.
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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