[pp.int.general] PPi ask Anonymous to stop Payback

Amelia Andersdotter teirdes at gmail.com
Sun Nov 21 04:54:34 CET 2010


*snip*

below assumes this is the discussed message:
http://pirate-party.us/comment.php?comment.news.25

this is a civil disobedience discussion. what is civil disobedience?
does this fall within civil disobedience? when is civil disobedience
okay and condoneable? but primarily, under what circumstances do we need
to make harder legislation to deal with civil disobedience?

i know two civil disobedience groups in sweden, ofog
(http://www.ofog.org/) and klimax (http://twitter.com/klimaxmalmo), that
have at repeated occasions destroyed property of other entities (well,
companies) or blocked traffic (peacefully) in a way that is clearly
either outside the boundaries of the law or disturbing to the public
order. the klimax experience is that they're not really bothered with
the police: they block traffic for one or two hours, they leave,
everything goes back to normal. some of the ofog people have, to my
knowledge, been arrested for having destroyed property of swedish fire
arm manufacturers. neither of the groups have caused any legislative
intervention.

mathias klang at göteborgs universitet wrote an essay on civil
disobedience online
(http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1137700) that
discusses ddos protest methods further. clearly it would be useful if
reflection on these issues would reach parliaments world wide
(yeeeeeeeees i'm working on it.....).

/a


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