[pp.int.general] PPi ask Anonymous to stop Payback & Mr Norton

Radosław Nadstawny radoslaw.nadstawny at o2.pl
Mon Nov 22 01:39:50 CET 2010


On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 23:14:32 +0100
Gabriel Serrano <gabriel.serrano at partidopirata.es> wrote:

> have take place on history. When at the end of the XIX workers
> created Unions and began striking it was illegal but they persevered
> and won, Gandhi used it too and won. Why couldn’t Ddos as Civil
> Disobedience finally work?. Nobody is going to ear you because you
> are kind. Only if you have Macht (the force) only then you have a
> chance.

You mention Gandhi as positive example and right after that you say that
being kind won't do anything? Do your homework and learn what Gandhi's
civil disobedience was like.

I think there is a big difference between civil disobedience and plain
rebellion. The latter usually aims to change order by use of force.
Civil disobedience aims to draw attention to rules that are considered
bad/stupid by choosing to disobey *them* (sometimes even with the intent
of getting arrested for it), not the law in general.

Also, DDOS doesn't seem to be valid form of civil disobedience, because
it is an *attack*. A valid form of civil disobedience would be just
pirating stuff, as this hurts noone (in contrary to what copyright
mafia tries to make us believe).


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