[pp.int.general] Wikileaks under DDoS attack

[Jay Emerson]

Yes Andrew, I'm a high school drop out that graduated from Hofstra
University and am now attending Stony Brook grad school.

What law school did you go to again?

I apologize to others on this email but while I wish to keep the
conversation substantive and refrain from personal attacks that don't
concern you (nor would you care, I assure you) my colleague seems to still
be licking his wounds over his resignation from USPP due to the fact his
being a dickapotamous conflicted with our goals of getting things done.

Back to the matter at hand, however :-)

Since I am NOT a lawyer, and would thus not pretend to be one, I only know
what I can find on the internet and rather than play Google Lawyer and
possibly mislead someone with MY interpretation of the law, I will simply
concede that I don't know how the law would be applied in this case.
On Nov 29, 2010 8:30 AM, "Marcus Kesler" <marcus at d-usa.info> wrote:
> I do believe that the question was about the DDoS attack against
Wikileaks, not the actual leak.
>
> Jay Emerson <jemers2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>AND Assange is not a citizen of the U.S.
>>On Nov 29, 2010 2:56 AM, "Jay Emerson" <jemers2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Leak didn't happen in the U.S.
>>> On Nov 29, 2010 12:46 AM, "Andrew Norton" <ktetch at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> On 11/28/2010 4:47 PM, Jay Emerson wrote:
>>>>> Innocent until proven guilty in the U.S.
>>>>
>>>> *facepalm* Ladies and gentlemen, I give you... US educational
standards!
>>>>
>>>> ACTIONS are legal, or illegal. That's what laws are, a list of actions
>>>> and the situations in which they are "illegal" An illegal act, is
ALWAYS
>>>> an illegal act.
>>>>
>>>> Now, a PERSON can be guilty or innocent. Specifically, they are guilty
>>>> or innocent of an ACTION. In this sort of discussion, and specifically
>>>> with the usage of the phrase you have mentioned, the action is an
>>>> illegal action. In fact, courts (in the U.S., since you made that
>>>> distinction) go out of their way to avoid touching the question of an
>>>> action's defined legality or illegality.
>>>>
>>>> If you don't understand (and I guess Jay doesn't, else he wouldn't have
>>>> posted what he did)
>>>> Taking some random child is kidnap, and is illegal. Forcing that child
>>>> to have sex with you is illegal. Killing the child afterwards is
>>>> illegal. Those actions are all defined as illegal.
>>>>
>>>> Now...
>>>> Did Glenn Beck rape and kill a young girl in 1990?
>>>> The answer is, even if he did, he is INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.
>>>>
>>>> It's really simple to understand. To understand if an act is legal or
>>>> illegal, you need nothing more than the ability to read, and access to
>>>> the laws. To determine if a person is guilty or innocent, you need a
>>>> court case, and lawyers and judges and so on.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, I can't blame Jay for not knowing the basic difference
>>>> between actions and people, because i think he (proudly[1]) dropped out
>>>> of high school before taking the class that explained this basic fact.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 28, 2010 4:38 PM, "lilo" <al3lilo at autistici.org
>>>>> <mailto:al3lilo at autistici.org>> wrote:
>>>>> http://wlcentral.org/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> whats about legal or not legal?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> l.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>> [1] Second paragraph of 'background' section -
>>>> http://www.pp-international.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25802
>>>>
>>>> - --
>>>> Andrew Norton
>>>> http://ktetch.blogspot.com
>>>> Tel: (352)6-KTETCH [352-658-3824]
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