[pp.int.general] USA and domain name seizure

Francisco George francisco.george at gmail.com
Tue Nov 30 12:06:46 CET 2010


If your domains names are seized by ICE go asap here
http://lostservers.organd the guys at @telecomix will get them back
online
you just have to fill a formular.

Best regards

Francisco

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>   1. Re: USA and domain name seizure (Robert Renling)
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>   3. Re: Wikileaks under DDoS attack (Jay Emerson)
>   4. Re: Wikileaks under DDoS attack (lilo)
>   5. Re: USA and domain name seizure (Rados?aw Nadstawny)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 00:28:52 +0100
> From: Robert Renling <robert.renling at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] USA and domain name seizure
> To: Pirate Parties International -- General Talk
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> I'd like to make everyone aware of http://dns.telecomix.org
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> On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 12:27 AM, Jay Emerson <jemers2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I like Germany's Open NIC idea as well.
> >
> > On Nov 29, 2010 6:21 PM, "kurrata" <kurrata at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> As most of us know USA has power to take your domain names down if they
> >> think they don't match their definition of legal and they are doing it
> >> quite aggressive now.
> >> How about this little project to fix little bit at least this problem
> >>
> >> We make our own domain name database so people can check real IP address
> >> of the sites they want to go to.
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> V?nligast,
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 01:01:40 +0100
> From: lilo <al3lilo at autistici.org>
> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Wikileaks under DDoS attack
> To: Pirate Parties International -- General Talk
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> On 29/11/2010 06:44, Andrew Norton wrote:
> > On 11/28/2010 4:47 PM, Jay Emerson wrote:
> >> Innocent until proven guilty in the U.S.
> >
>
> [snip++]
>
> > It's really simple to understand. To understand if an act is legal or
> > illegal, you need nothing more than the ability to read, and access to
> > the laws. To determine if a person is guilty or innocent, you need a
> > court case, and lawyers and judges and so on.
>
> and God, i figure ....
>
> or not?
>
>
>
> - --
> ~lilo~
> registered GNUlinux user #527294
> Debian-women
> - --donne at softwarelibero.it
> ####IRC @ FreeNode #donne-softwarelibero
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 19:03:28 -0500
> From: Jay Emerson <jemers2 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Wikileaks under DDoS attack
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> Are you suggesting Andrew is...God?
>
> Would explain a lot....
> On Nov 29, 2010 7:01 PM, "lilo" <al3lilo at autistici.org> wrote:
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> > On 29/11/2010 06:44, Andrew Norton wrote:
> >> On 11/28/2010 4:47 PM, Jay Emerson wrote:
> >>> Innocent until proven guilty in the U.S.
> >>
> >
> > [snip++]
> >
> >> It's really simple to understand. To understand if an act is legal or
> >> illegal, you need nothing more than the ability to read, and access to
> >> the laws. To determine if a person is guilty or innocent, you need a
> >> court case, and lawyers and judges and so on.
> >
> > and God, i figure ....
> >
> > or not?
> >
> >
> >
> > - --
> > ~lilo~
> > registered GNUlinux user #527294
> > Debian-women
> > - --donne at softwarelibero.it
> > ####IRC @ FreeNode #donne-softwarelibero
> > freesoftware means LOVE :^)
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 01:30:33 +0100
> From: lilo <al3lilo at autistici.org>
> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Wikileaks under DDoS attack
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> On 30/11/2010 01:03, Jay Emerson wrote:
> > Are you suggesting Andrew is...God?
>
> lol its possible, as lawyer ......
>
> my question was sarcastic.  I felt pretty "enrich" his list.
>
>
> but we know,
> nuclear is LEGAL
> war is legal
> producing and selling weapons is too legal
> copyright is legal
> etc.
>
>
>
> really seems that our governments are on top of legality, and
> transparency and love for their people
>
> <quote>man, make your mind clear, are you sure you are a Pirate?</quote>
>
>
> :-)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> - --
> ~lilo~
> registered GNUlinux user #527294
>
> Debian-women
> - --donne at softwarelibero.it
> ####IRC @ FreeNode #donne-softwarelibero
> freesoftware means LOVE :^)
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 02:05:40 +0100
> From: Rados?aw Nadstawny <radoslaw.nadstawny at o2.pl>
> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] USA and domain name seizure
> To: pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
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> On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 23:28:27 +0000
> Jack <m2ys4u at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > There are already several alternative DNS roots, but they've never
> > gained much traction.
> >
>
> They may not have have gained popularity, but what's important is that
> they're out there, for us to use when the need arises. You can see them
> as the underground waiting in case of situation on the surface getting
> bad enough. They're not centralised, not official, and not hugely
> popular, but all these can be viewed as advantages in certain
> circumstances.
>
> They're another good example of how neutrality is built into the core of
> the internet.
>
> Actually, OpenNIC looks very promising in that it resolves ICANN
> domains as well (so it can be used as a drop-in replacement DNS without
> the need of sacrificing anything).
>
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