[pp.int.general] Defend TPB
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Mon Oct 4 02:57:00 CEST 2010
Every important political movement has some allied media who creates awareness about this
movent interests, what we need is international and national pirate media.
Today, if you wan't to know about pirate news were do you go? lists, twitter?
We need something more mainstream.
> Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 23:27:38 +0200
> From: erik.lonroth at gmail.com
> To: pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Defend TPB
> There will be a significant symbolic loss - should TPB lose in the
> next, third, and final, instance of court in Sweden. (The High Court,
> or, Högsta Domstolen)
> Such a symbolic loss, could possibly be a fatal blow to the "Pirate
> movement" in Sweden. People will start think in terms of "if the
> highest court think it is wrong to share, then it must be wrong."
> Even if TPB as such is not such a relevant project any more, it still
> is a symbol over people acctually standing up against the
> "copy-right-maffia". Even if that never was the purpose, it still
> became a fact.
> This spectacle rasies a number of important questions that might be to
> late to think about once the trials are over:
> * Is the Pirate movement lacking the means to take on this incredibly
> strong opponent (such as IFIP etc.) ? If so, what are we missing in
> that case?
> * In Sweden, the Pirate party didn't do good at all in the elections
> and some people even regard the movement as "dead". Is that because
> our questions are not important enough, or why don't we gain a
> stronger position even though we multiplied our efforts tenfold this
> election ?
> * What can the Pirate movement around the world do to regain its
> positions as a global movement? With all due respect, but PPI is a
> very, very small group of people doing really, really little impact on
> peoples every day life. What can we do to change that?
> On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Johan Karlsson <johan at landslide.nu> wrote:
> > Also, this is only the middle act of three.
> > In the Swedish justice system there is three trials for all (important)
> > cases. The first one is interesting because it will give you an idea of
> > whats going on. The last one is important because it delivers the actual
> > verdict.
> > The 2nd one that is going on right now just isnt interesting.
> > Cheers
> > Johan
> > On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 9:17 PM, lilo <al3lilo at autistici.org> wrote:
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> >> Il 03/10/2010 21:09, Amelia Andersdotter ha scritto:
> >> > On 10/03/2010 06:49 PM, Parti Pirate Tunisie wrote:
> >> > The only thing we can do is create public attention.
> >> >
> >> > /a
> >> \./ \./ \./
> >> - --
> >> ~lilo
> >> ########
> >> "Lower your shields, and surrender your ship... RESISTANCE IS FUTILE."
> >> We, Borg.
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