[pp.int.general] File Sharing in Space

Mon Oct 18 13:52:54 CEST 2010

Ok

This could be feasable.

If you manage to put some device in the air there is already some software
that could be use to download the material upthere.

The soft is called SkyGrabber, and is known to have been used by Irakis
insurgents to capture images and live videos from US Drones.

http://www.forbes.com/2010/02/02/hackers-cybercrime-cryptography-technology-security-satellite.html

The software Webpage
http://www.skygrabber.com/en/index.php

<http://www.skygrabber.com/en/index.php>and more info in google search:
http://bit.ly/9x0Sdx

You could also use http://kickstarter.com to find fundings for such project.
This site is the one used by DIASPORA to raise funds for their project.

Solar panels should provide the main Energy I think. But why not think of a
real Satelite...

Brazil, known for the liberal use of internet, has a Space Agency
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_Space_Agency

Best Regards

Francisco George
Member of National Comitee of the Spanish Pirate Party

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> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 22:22:41 +0200
> From: Erik L?nroth <erik.lonroth at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pp.int.general] File sharing in space
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> Hello you wonderful useless pirates!
>
> Since we didn't do too well in the Swedish election, I have got some
> time over for relaxing and spending time on some private projects.
>
> A friend of mine is involved in some crazy stuff with rockets and is
> currently participating in "Sugar Shot to Space". I'm not sure how,
> But anway, we are thinking of doing a far less complicated thing
> parallel to that...
>
> We plan to send a file sharing site (or something similar) into the
> sky - possibly a blogg (?)... We plan to use some kind of baloon and
> try to keep it up in the air for as long as possible. Hopefully
> irritating the crap out of authorities in as many countries as
> possible.
>
> I don't know jack shit about most of the stuff involved, but since I
> figured, alot of techies roam this forum - I would like to ask for
> good advices and far fetched ideas as to how to do this.
>
> The Pirate Party Logo is off-course going up together with it.
>
> The over all goal is to learn how to do this, have fun, create a
> debate about free communication, learn stuff, publish everything and
> share information.
>
> Soon, we will start up a forum and wiki, but for now we would like to
> know if you useless people can help out on the following topics:
>
>
> * How to make a baloon stay up in the air for as long as possible.
> * How to provide energy to enough electronics to drive...
> * ... what nessesary equipment is needed to do this.
> * How to keep the electronics alive as long as possible.
> * How to fund it.
>
> Are there any of you that can provide help here, or are we alone?
>
> /Erik
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 16:32:33 -0400
> From: Andrew Norton <ktetch at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] File sharing in space
> To: pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
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> On 10/17/2010 4:22 PM, Erik L?nroth wrote:
> > Hello you wonderful useless pirates!
> >
> > * How to make a baloon stay up in the air for as long as possible.
> > * How to provide energy to enough electronics to drive...
> > * ... what nessesary equipment is needed to do this.
> > * How to keep the electronics alive as long as possible.
> > * How to fund it.
> >
> > Are there any of you that can provide help here, or are we alone?
> >
>
> My second degree was going to be in astrophyics, with an eye towards
> Mars (manned missions, astrophysics complimenting my main one in robotics)
>
> Let me think on it a bit.
>
> The main thing that will drive the design will be the flight profile.
> How high, and how long.  do you want a weather-baloon style uncontrolled
> climb, or something more like an airship, or an ultra-high altitude
> glider? Or, most ambitiously, do you want something to LEO? Then, do you
> want minutes, hours, days? Recovery+relaunch? Geostationary, or not?
>
> make a big difference to the sorts of designs needed.
>
> > /Erik
> > ____________________________________________________
> > Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> > pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
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> - --
> Andrew Norton
> http://ktetch.blogspot.com
> Tel: (352)6-KTETCH [352-658-3824]
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> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 02:29:09 -0200
> From: Rodrigo Pereira <rodrigo2kpereira at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] File sharing in space
> To: Pirate Parties International -- General Talk
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> ow! owesome! This will be the sputnik of the new era. I had the idea
> to send a micro satelite to spread some "dangerous" urls in morse code
> like "h-t-t-p-:-/-/-t-h-e-p-i-r-a-t-e-b-a-y-.-o-r-g using this
> service: http://interorbital.com/TubeSat_1.htm
>
> But I think is more cheaper and "cool" construct a dirigible balloon
> loading a router with a customized access point firmware to spread a
> torrent site, like firmwares in dd-wrt.com. The dirigible must be
> autonomous if coupled in a gps system and a basic route programation
> (to skip airports area, for example). Solar pannels with bateries must
> be feed the machine.
>
> Is very nice think about this. If anyone have a lot of money to
> support this, call me! ;)
>
> 2010/10/17 Andrew Norton <ktetch at gmail.com>:
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> > On 10/17/2010 4:22 PM, Erik L?nroth wrote:
> >> Hello you wonderful useless pirates!
> >>
> >> * How to make a baloon stay up in the air for as long as possible.
> >> * How to provide energy to enough electronics to drive...
> >> * ... what nessesary equipment is needed to do this.
> >> * How to keep the electronics alive as long as possible.
> >> * How to fund it.
> >>
> >> Are there any of you that can provide help here, or are we alone?
> >>
> >
> > My second degree was going to be in astrophyics, with an eye towards
> > Mars (manned missions, astrophysics complimenting my main one in
> robotics)
> >
> > Let me think on it a bit.
> >
> > The main thing that will drive the design will be the flight profile.
> > How high, and how long. ?do you want a weather-baloon style uncontrolled
> > climb, or something more like an airship, or an ultra-high altitude
> > glider? Or, most ambitiously, do you want something to LEO? Then, do you
> > want minutes, hours, days? Recovery+relaunch? Geostationary, or not?
> >
> > make a big difference to the sorts of designs needed.
> >
> >> /Erik
> >> ____________________________________________________
> >> Pirate Parties International - General Talk
> >> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> >> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
> >
> >
> > - --
> > Andrew Norton
> > http://ktetch.blogspot.com
> > Tel: (352)6-KTETCH [352-658-3824]
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 02:27:27 -0400
> From: Richard Stallman <rms at gnu.org>
> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] European Liberty Conference
> To: Brendan Molloy <brendanmolloy at pirateparty.org.au>
> Cc: pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
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> Thanks for the PDF file.
>
> --
> Richard Stallman
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 02:27:43 -0400
> From: Richard Stallman <rms at gnu.org>
> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] European Liberty Conference
> To: Pirate Parties International -- General Talk
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> The rants Turovskiy directs at me are not opinions about what I said.
> They misrepresent what I said about the issue, and they misrepresent
> the issue too.
>
> To publish in Flash v9 does more than simply "tell" people
> to use proprietary software -- it requires them to do so
> in order to view the publication.
>
> By contrast, publishing in PDF lets people use many programs
> to view the publication.  Some of them are free software,
> but people who are determined to lose their freedom do have
> the option of using proprietary options too.
>
> The issue comes from those facts.  When Turovskiy says that this is a
> matter of "telling people to use free software", he misrepresents the
> issue.  And when he claims I am trying to do that, he misrepresents
> what I said.
>
> --
> Richard Stallman
> President, Free Software Foundation
> 51 Franklin St
> Boston MA 02110
> USA
> www.fsf.org, www.gnu.org
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 02:28:08 -0400
> From: Richard Stallman <rms at gnu.org>
> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] European Liberty Conference
> To: Gregory Engels <gregory.engels at pp-international.net>
> Cc: pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
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>    unfortunately it is bigger than allowed to be uploaded to
>    the wiki, so i put it on dropbox:
>
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4020978/There%20is%20no%20such%20thing%20as%20intellectual%20property.pdf
>
> I think that will address the issue.  Thanks.
>
> --
> Richard Stallman
> President, Free Software Foundation
> 51 Franklin St
> Boston MA 02110
> USA
> www.fsf.org, www.gnu.org
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>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 11:52:33 +0200
> From: Marco Confalonieri <marco.confalonieri at email.it>
> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] European Liberty Conference
> To: Pirate Parties International -- General Talk
>        <pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net>
> Message-ID: <4CBC18E1.7020100 at email.it>
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>  Il 17/10/2010 15.13, Boris Turovskiy ha scritto:
> >  Hi lilo,
> > I reply in as bad English: fuck you! but you may learn English with
> > clients. Thanks.
> > Boris
>
> Apart from my personal stance that without RMS there would be no Pirate
> Movement in any part of the world, I'd like to ask you why are you so
> rude, since lilo didn't use any insult towards you in the mail you were
> replying to.
>
> Regards,
> --
> Marco Confalonieri
> Associazione Partito Pirata (PP-IT)
> http://www.partito-pirata.it
>
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