[pp.int.general] File Sharing in Space

[Stefan Sakowitz]

Yep, Erik.....

Getting more precise:

The question of launching vehicles into
national aerospace or beeing responsible for 
passing air-vehicles is not hypothetical.
And it may be cause for fatal publicity.

In the US the first project for sending
private satellites into orbit is on the way, while
enormously expensive. But, as we all know, these
technologies will get cheaper, but may never be financed
by anti- (not just non-) profit organizations like PPI.
According to this, a clever pirate-radio is
a well funded idea.

My reason for keeping the technical and financial 
approach smaller is, that in 1998 a remote-controlled
sail-boat for a trip round the globe was nearly 
finished at the (IT) College of Furtwangen (Germany).
My last information was, that the project was never 
finished, because the relation between financial
expenses and risks was not acceptable.
And behind this had been the money of SAP (!!)

A smaller attempt could be to send a remote-controlled 
platform alongside the national territory with the 
remote control in the 200-mile-zone. Ex: From GB to
Netherlands to Belgium to France etc..... 

This should be the safest and cheapest process.

Rgds

Stefan

....and yep, heard of avionics before.....

 








-------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Datum: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 22:52:47 +0200
> Von: "Erik Lönroth" <erik.lonroth at gmail.com>
> An: Pirate Parties International -- General Talk <pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net>
> Betreff: Re: [pp.int.general] File Sharing in Space

> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:34 PM, Stefan Sakowitz <Multireal at gmx.de>
> wrote:
> > For sure.....the idea is nice and great. No doubt.
> >
> > In fact: I can even follow the idea, reaching out for a
> > publicity action in order to gather money for a private
> > rocket/satellite-project. This is already started.......
> >
> 
> What do you mean Stefan? Do you already raise money for a rocket? Can I
> come?
> 
> > On the other hand, my fears concentrate on opinions,
> > arguing on >some guys launching vehicles into airtraffic<.
> > Very quickly this may unveil counterproductive.
> >
> 
> Well, it's probably too early to reason about it. I don't like to
> worry about hypothetical problems. The real ones are far too many
> already.
> 
> > Although remote-controlled toy-ships would be funny
> > training-targets for the forces too, the effect of
> > probably endangering the public ist neutralized.
> >
> > I don´t want to be mistaken: The abstract idea of launching
> > the most modern and smartest Pirate-Radio is great.
> >
> 
> I think so too. This thing could be great with the help from all of
> you. I can only do some of it, I need help. I need great people to do
> great stuff.
> 
> I could picture myself "ALOT" of bit-torrent baloons being launched
> from all over the world at some pre set date aswell !
> 
> > Stefan
> > Senior aviation engineer/Germany
> >
> 
> You seem to know your ways on avionics...
> 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> >> Datum: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 20:18:12 +0000
> >> Von: Rodrigo dA <rata_0071 at hotmail.com>
> >> An: pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> >> Betreff: Re: [pp.int.general] File Sharing in Space
> >
> >>
> >> This project is great!!
> >> I agree going for the balloon first is the best, it's cheaper and will
> >> give you hands on experience with the necessary hardware to make it
> work.
> >> Also will give you experience dealing with the legal bureaucracy and
> >> people would be more willing to finance a satellite project if they see
> you can
> >> get the work done.
> >>
> >> regards
> >> Rodrigo de Arzave
> >> > Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 16:11:21 -0400
> >> > From: ktetch at gmail.com
> >> > To: pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> >> > Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] File Sharing in Space
> >> >
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> >> >
> >> > On 10/18/2010 4:07 PM, Stefan Sakowitz wrote:
> >> > > .....and, as I see it, the aerospace above countries
> >> > > is far more controlled and claimed by nations as their
> >> > > landscape or seashore borders are.
> >> >
> >> > That's true. Reminds me of a conversation I had with Samir and some
> >> > others when helping them with some translations last night.
> >> >
> >> > Pirate Radio (as in the classic 'boat-at-sea' type. A bit like
> sealand,
> >> > but not on crown lands, using a UK mailing address as it's official
> >> > address, or being inside the claimed limit)
> >> >
> >> > Anyone know of some old ships going cheap?
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > >> Ooops...< said the Air Force Commodore......
> >> > >
> >> > > Stefan
> >> > >
> >> > > -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> >> > >> Datum: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 19:49:34 +0200
> >> > >> Von: Christian Hufgard <pp at christian-hufgard.de>
> >> > >> An: Pirate Parties International -- General Talk
> >> <pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net>
> >> > >> Betreff: Re: [pp.int.general] File Sharing in Space
> >> > >
> >> > >> Am 18.10.2010 19:34, schrieb Erik Lönroth:
> >> > >>> Seems like a response from the community with some substance to
> it!
> >> I
> >> > >>> like the idea of "Practical Politics" instead of just "Political
> >> > >>> Politics". Not to say one goes without the other, but in the end
> >> your
> >> > >>> either do or you don't.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Please keep in mind, that it can be pretty dangerous to launch
> >> objects
> >> > >> into the air - the many rules according that topic have not at all
> >> been
> >> > >> invented to annoy people.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> There are a lot of planes out there...
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Christian
> >> > >> ____________________________________________________
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> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > - --
> >> > Andrew Norton
> >> > http://ktetch.blogspot.com
> >> > Tel: (352)6-KTETCH [352-658-3824]
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