[pp.int.general] File Sharing in Space

[Andrew Norton]

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On 10/18/2010 5:31 PM, Erik Lönroth wrote:

> But I also find it super-difficult to create a boat that is remote
> controlled and self maintaining....  I even find it difficult to take
> care of my own boat.

Actually, it's not THAT hard. In fact, with no humans, it's easier,
since it can be sealed and self-buoyant. As stefan does avionics,
telepresence is (or was, anyway) my field

> 
> I like the way this idea is being shaped though! Maybe it could be
> spawns of this...
> 
> 
>> My reason for keeping the technical and financial
>> approach smaller is, that in 1998 a remote-controlled
>> sail-boat for a trip round the globe was nearly
>> finished at the (IT) College of Furtwangen (Germany).
>> My last information was, that the project was never
>> finished, because the relation between financial
>> expenses and risks was not acceptable.
>> And behind this had been the money of SAP (!!)
>>
>> A smaller attempt could be to send a remote-controlled
>> platform alongside the national territory with the
>> remote control in the 200-mile-zone. Ex: From GB to
>> Netherlands to Belgium to France etc.....
>>
>> This should be the safest and cheapest process.
>>
>> Rgds
>>
>> Stefan
>>
>> ....and yep, heard of avionics before.....
>>
> 
> Anyway.... for this to become real, it has to begin somewhere.
> 
>>
>> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>>> Datum: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 22:52:47 +0200
>>> Von: "Erik Lönroth" <erik.lonroth at gmail.com>
>>> An: Pirate Parties International -- General Talk <pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net>
>>> Betreff: Re: [pp.int.general] File Sharing in Space
>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:34 PM, Stefan Sakowitz <Multireal at gmx.de>
>>> wrote:
>>>> For sure.....the idea is nice and great. No doubt.
>>>>
>>>> In fact: I can even follow the idea, reaching out for a
>>>> publicity action in order to gather money for a private
>>>> rocket/satellite-project. This is already started.......
>>>>
>>>
>>> What do you mean Stefan? Do you already raise money for a rocket? Can I
>>> come?
>>>
>>>> On the other hand, my fears concentrate on opinions,
>>>> arguing on >some guys launching vehicles into airtraffic<.
>>>> Very quickly this may unveil counterproductive.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well, it's probably too early to reason about it. I don't like to
>>> worry about hypothetical problems. The real ones are far too many
>>> already.
>>>
>>>> Although remote-controlled toy-ships would be funny
>>>> training-targets for the forces too, the effect of
>>>> probably endangering the public ist neutralized.
>>>>
>>>> I don´t want to be mistaken: The abstract idea of launching
>>>> the most modern and smartest Pirate-Radio is great.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think so too. This thing could be great with the help from all of
>>> you. I can only do some of it, I need help. I need great people to do
>>> great stuff.
>>>
>>> I could picture myself "ALOT" of bit-torrent baloons being launched
>>> from all over the world at some pre set date aswell !
>>>
>>>> Stefan
>>>> Senior aviation engineer/Germany
>>>>
>>>
>>> You seem to know your ways on avionics...
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>>>>> Datum: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 20:18:12 +0000
>>>>> Von: Rodrigo dA <rata_0071 at hotmail.com>
>>>>> An: pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
>>>>> Betreff: Re: [pp.int.general] File Sharing in Space
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This project is great!!
>>>>> I agree going for the balloon first is the best, it's cheaper and will
>>>>> give you hands on experience with the necessary hardware to make it
>>> work.
>>>>> Also will give you experience dealing with the legal bureaucracy and
>>>>> people would be more willing to finance a satellite project if they see
>>> you can
>>>>> get the work done.
>>>>>
>>>>> regards
>>>>> Rodrigo de Arzave
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 16:11:21 -0400
>>>>>> From: ktetch at gmail.com
>>>>>> To: pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] File Sharing in Space
>>>>>>
> On 10/18/2010 4:07 PM, Stefan Sakowitz wrote:
>>>>>>>> .....and, as I see it, the aerospace above countries
>>>>>>>> is far more controlled and claimed by nations as their
>>>>>>>> landscape or seashore borders are.
> 
> That's true. Reminds me of a conversation I had with Samir and some
> others when helping them with some translations last night.
> 
> Pirate Radio (as in the classic 'boat-at-sea' type. A bit like
>>>> sealand,
> but not on crown lands, using a UK mailing address as it's official
> address, or being inside the claimed limit)
> 
> Anyone know of some old ships going cheap?
> 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ooops...< said the Air Force Commodore......
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Stefan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>>>>>>>>> Datum: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 19:49:34 +0200
>>>>>>>>> Von: Christian Hufgard <pp at christian-hufgard.de>
>>>>>>>>> An: Pirate Parties International -- General Talk
>>>>>> <pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net>
>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [pp.int.general] File Sharing in Space
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am 18.10.2010 19:34, schrieb Erik Lönroth:
>>>>>>>>>> Seems like a response from the community with some substance to
>>>> it!
>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> like the idea of "Practical Politics" instead of just "Political
>>>>>>>>>> Politics". Not to say one goes without the other, but in the end
>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>> either do or you don't.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please keep in mind, that it can be pretty dangerous to launch
>>>>>> objects
>>>>>>>>> into the air - the many rules according that topic have not at all
>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>> invented to annoy people.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There are a lot of planes out there...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Christian
>>>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> Pirate Parties International - General Talk
>>>>>>>>> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> http://lists.pirateweb.net/mailman/listinfo/pp.international.general
>>>>>>>>
> 
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