[pp.int.general] @ Dutch Pirates

Nicolas Sahlqvist nicco77 at gmail.com
Thu Oct 21 00:24:18 CEST 2010


Philip:

We were so sure we would reach at least 1% or 2.5% in the Swedish election,
but instead we had a hard lesson that getting those % extra can be much
harder then you may think so let's not assume it will be so much easier in
NL although the system is different.


- Nicolas


On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:14 AM, Philip Hunt <cabalamat at googlemail.com>wrote:

> On 20 October 2010 22:04, roberto aka robske <evilteddyxl at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Yep it is. It would be a great chance, weren't it that there were some
> > problems.
> >
> > The main problems in The Netherlands currently consist of these (in my
> > opinion):
> > - The media is dominated by the PVV. Even if Geert Wilders farts, it is
> news
> > (metaphorically speaking).
> > - Most of the voting power is currently held by conservative people. I
> would
> > classify the VVD, all Christian parties and the PVV as conservative
> parties.
> > Together, they have about 90-100 seats in the parliament.
> > - The media is also controlled largely by conservative people and groups.
> > This is clearly shown, as all changes which have negative consequences
> for
> > conservatives, are shown as negative in the media.
> > - This all together causes for a very conservative society currently,
> moving
> > more towards an authoritarian government.
> > - Most of the people in The Netherlands have no idea what's going on,
> since
> > the mainstream media doesn't report them the real things which are going
> on
> > (since it isn't good for the conservatives).
>
> I don't think these are insuperable obstacles. In the Netrherlands,
> you're lucky that the electoral system is pure PR with no threshold,
> so you only need 0.67% of the vote to get people elected. I'm sure the
> Dutch Pirates will get people elected at the next general election.
> Once a party does have elected representatives, it makes it easier for
> them to get attention in the media, so they can build their support.
>
> --
> Philip Hunt, <cabalamat at gmail.com>
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