[pp.int.general] Pirate Party of Germany chooses proprietary software

piratska partija piratska.partija.srbije at gmail.com
Sat Jul 30 23:00:36 CEST 2011


It's about the message that party sends. Of course it's not closing the
choice  area. That should be balanced political decision. period.

On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 10:54 PM, Andrew Norton <ktetch at gmail.com> wrote:

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> On 7/30/2011 4:51 PM, piratska partija wrote:
> > I have to say that decisions like this are dangerous and erode the
> > consistency of ideology. Also we should check the info since the post
> > has been made in the name of trolling.
>
> What ideology? This isn't the Free Software Foundation. Since there's no
> ideology requiring FOSS software in the pirate party stuff, then it
> can't violate ideological purity, and thus political correctness.
>
> Unless I've missed something major, one of the things the Pirate Party
> is NOT, is a FOSS pressure group.
>
> >
> > cheerz
> >
> > 2011/7/30 Rok Andrée <rok.andree at piratskastranka.net
> > <mailto:rok.andree at piratskastranka.net>>
> >
> >     Gonna have to agree with Boris and Andrew.
> >
> >     Beeing opensource/free(as in freedome) gives software extra points
> >     but it does not disqualify nonfree software.
> >
> >     Lp
> >     Rok Andrée
> >     Blagajnik -Treasurer
> >     Piratska stranka Slovenije - Slovenian Pirate Party
> >
> >
> >
> >     On 30 July 2011 22:26, Andrew Norton <ktetch at gmail.com
> >     <mailto:ktetch at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > On 7/30/2011 4:01 PM, Boris Turovskiy wrote:
> >> */this is a trolling post/*
> >> Ahoi,
> >
> >> The Pirate Party of Germany has decided to use a proprietary,
> > commercial
> >> software tool for accounting and member management. After a
> > review of
> >> all possibilities that software was the only one which
> > conformed to all
> >> requirements.
> >> As you can surmise I'm fully supportive of the German Pirate Party
> >> Board's approach, as I consider a software to be a tool which
> > has to be
> >> chosen based on its suitability.
> >
> > I'm with you, Boris. Choosing tools based on ideology, rather than
> > suitability is like fighting sweatshops by never wearing shoes.
> > It makes
> > little difference overall, and hurts your ability to perform
> > optimally.
> >
> > Pirate Parties are *NOT* FOSS-cheerleading orgs, they're
> > freedom, and
> > progress orgs. That might mean promoting FOSS alternatives at times
> > (particularly if they're the better option), but when there
> > isn't one,
> > but there is a non-FOSS method that works perfectly, then use
> > the non-FOSS.
> >
> > Personally, if non-FOSS is a fair way ahead of the FOSS
> > equivalent, I'm
> > not going to cripple my ability to do things on ideological grounds.
> > That's just stupid. Just like the politicians here in the US
> > right now.
> >
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> >> However, I know that there are some people in the
> > international Pirate
> >> movement who see software as a principal issue (invoking terms
> > like
> >> "freedom" and other utter bullshit), for whom I wish to create
> > this
> >> thread. They can safely troll here in the knowledge that no0
> > one takes
> >> them seriously.
> >
> >> Best regards,
> >> Boris
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > --
> > -
> > Aleksandar Blagojevi? aka blaeks
> > former PPI board member
> >
> >
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Aleksandar Blagojević aka blaeks
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