[pp.int.general] Fwd: 18 new MEPs to arrive next month
jordi at soucheiron.cat
Wed Nov 16 21:11:19 CET 2011
We'll get there...eventually.
2011/11/16 Richard Suchenwirth <suchenwi at googlemail.com>
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> Let's be realistic. Recent German jurisdiction ruled out the 5%
> threshold for EP elections. That's good news for small parties.
> On the other hand, the German Pirate Party scores between 5% and 9% in
> current polls. That's good news too, for Pirates.
> But Germany has 99 seats in the EP, so come the next elections, with
> similar rates, that would be 5..9 seats for German Pirates. If Pirates
> in other countries don't add to that figure, it's far from the 25
> member limit required for a "group".
> Am 2011-11-15 14:10, schrieb Yves Quemener:
> > I don't rely have any advice on the issue. But just wondering : if
> > the PP separates from the Greens, will the Greens stop to promote
> > the items they were convinced by the PP to add in their program ?
> > Unorthodox idea : would it be possible to split the MEPs of the PP
> > across several bigger groups ? The condition being the acceptance
> > of the PP's program.
> > I don't know if it makes more sense to be a stand-alone group or
> > an "infectious vector". I think I'd rather have 50 MEPs defending
> > the ideas of the PP under another banner than have 5 PP MEPs
> > isolated in their own group.
> > I would consider it a victory to see the majority of the European
> > Parliament defend the ideas of the PP inside various different
> > programs, even if it means the dilution of the PP.
> > On 11/15/2011 09:56 PM, Justus Römeth wrote:
> >> It does not seem likely that this will be implemented before the
> >> next election, when the cards will be shuffled again. Now, 25 MEP
> >> is a high number we can not expect to reach within the next 2
> >> election circles, although with the right scandals it could be
> >> possible (keep in mind that Germany sends the biggest numbers of
> >> MEPs and the PPDE polls at 6-8% at the moment), so assuming that
> >> this will depend on our 2 current MEPs is a bit early I think.
> >> What I read about the proposal does not specify what requirements
> >> such a 'group' would need to meet in order to be allowed to put
> >> forward a European-wide list. If you know more, feel free to
> >> share it, but until then we can assume that it may be enough for
> >> a group to be in a national parliament, or to be represented in
> >> the EP, which the PPs may well be by that time. I for one think
> >> it can be harmfull to associate too closely with the Greens, but
> >> that may be because I am from a country where both the Greens as
> >> well as the PP are quite big, and (need to) differ on some
> >> ideas. I am not questioning Christian and Amelia having joined
> >> the Green fraction in the EP, but I doubt it would be wise to run
> >> as part of them in a European-wide election.
> >> Does anybody know how much the European Liberal Democrat and
> >> Reform
> >> Party<
> ruled by economic liberalism, and how much they care about civil
> >> liberties? With the German Liberals defunct it could make sense
> >> for PPDE to join them instead of the Greens for differentiation,
> >> since the traditional German liberal party (FDP) is at an
> >> all-time-low (disclaimer: I am just a simple member of PPDE, who
> >> doesn't even have contact to the board of PPDE, this is a play
> >> with thoughts, not the announcement of some sort).
> >> On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 12:26 PM, David Arcos
> >> <david.arcos at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Jack Allnutt
> >>> <m2ys4u at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> We would need 25 from at least 5 member states to form a
> >>>> group if I remember correctly.
> >>> Challenge accepted ;-)
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