[pp.int.general] Other (no sot good) reaction to MU joint complaint campaign

[Mozart]

Megaupload has divided the Pirate Movement because not everyone agrees:

a) With what Dotcom was doing;
b) Whether they should get involved; and
c) Whether it's better to focus on ACTA at the moment.

We are only divided by opinion on those matters. Each Party must  
respect the opinions and decisions of other Pirate Parties. This does  
not mean we are divided in overall goal, or that any camaraderie is  
lost. It just means we don't always agree on everything.

--
Mozart Palmer
Head of Media Relations
Pirate Party Australia
P: 0415 152 765
E: mozart.palmer at pirateparty.org.au
T: @OlbrychtPalmer

On 28/01/2012, at 7:12 PM, Pirat at LennStar.de wrote:

> Words like pirate?
>
> Isn't this
> a) discrimination of religion (flying spaghetti monster) and
> b) of a political party?
>
>
> ----
>
> why 3)?
>
> LennStar
>
> Am 28.01.2012 02:32, schrieb Stephane Bakhos:
>>>> Well, that's the natural reaction if you defend a company like
>>>> MegaUpload. You can close your eyes as hard as you want, their  
>>>> business
>>>> modell is based upon earning money by selling other people's work
>>>> without permission.
>>
>> When thing that you seem to have missed is the MP3tunes verdict from
>> about 5 months ago
>> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/08/record-labels-get-hollow-victory-in-mp3tunes-infringement-case.ars
>>
>>
>> And the denian of the appeal about 2 weeks ago
>> http://onthecoversongs.blogspot.com/2012/01/labels-denied-interlocutory-appeal-in.html
>>
>>
>> The few juicy bits:
>>
>> The labels argued that MP3tunes was disqualified because it should  
>> have
>> known that many of the songs users sideloaded from websites such as
>> rapidshare were infringing. But Judge William Pauley disagreed,  
>> arguing
>> that the DMCA imposes no obligation to investigate potentially
>> infringing activity absent a specific complaint from copyright  
>> holders.
>> The only exception is links to sites with URLs containing "red flag"
>> words like "pirate" or "bootleg."
>>
>> EMI also argued that MP3tunes couldn't claim the DMCA safe harbor
>> because it benefitted from its users' infringement and had the  
>> ability
>> to control that infringement. But Judge Pauley disagreed. He held  
>> that
>> there was no evidence MP3tunes directly profited from users'  
>> infringing
>> sideloads. And he held that users, not MP3tunes, controlled which  
>> files
>> users placed in their lockers.
>>
>> "Judge Pauley soundly rejected that line of reasoning, writing that
>> "MP3tunes does not use a 'master copy' to store or play back songs
>> stored in its lockers. Instead, MP3tunes uses a standard data
>> compression algorithm that eliminates redundant digital data."
>>
>> This is probably going to be jurisprudence in favour of MU, and  
>> most of
>> the cyberlockers out there.
>>
>> At the end of the day, the FBI raid did achieve a few things in  
>> favour
>> of the *AA:
>>
>> 1. Give them a picture of the foreign rich guy they were talking  
>> about
>> when pushing SOPA/PIPA
>>
>> 2. Excerted tremendous pressure on the cyberlocker system, with many
>> deciding to close down (filesonic, fileserve, etc)
>>
>> 3. Divided the pirate movement.
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