[pp.int.general] Other (no sot good) reaction to MU joint complaint campaign
pirat at lennstar.de
Sat Jan 28 11:13:22 CET 2012
But that isn't a new thing, so Megaupload has not divided us (in
opinions), it has just made another point of discussion.
Am 28.01.2012 10:42, schrieb Mozart:
> Megaupload has divided the Pirate Movement because not everyone agrees:
> a) With what Dotcom was doing;
> b) Whether they should get involved; and
> c) Whether it's better to focus on ACTA at the moment.
> We are only divided by opinion on those matters. Each Party must respect
> the opinions and decisions of other Pirate Parties. This does not mean
> we are divided in overall goal, or that any camaraderie is lost. It just
> means we don't always agree on everything.
> Mozart Palmer
> Head of Media Relations
> Pirate Party Australia
> P: 0415 152 765
> E: mozart.palmer at pirateparty.org.au
> <mailto:mozart.palmer at pirateparty.org.au>
> T: @OlbrychtPalmer
> On 28/01/2012, at 7:12 PM, Pirat at LennStar.de <mailto:Pirat at LennStar.de>
>> Words like pirate?
>> Isn't this
>> a) discrimination of religion (flying spaghetti monster) and
>> b) of a political party?
>> why 3)?
>> Am 28.01.2012 02:32, schrieb Stephane Bakhos:
>>>>> Well, that's the natural reaction if you defend a company like
>>>>> MegaUpload. You can close your eyes as hard as you want, their business
>>>>> modell is based upon earning money by selling other people's work
>>>>> without permission.
>>> When thing that you seem to have missed is the MP3tunes verdict from
>>> about 5 months ago
>>> And the denian of the appeal about 2 weeks ago
>>> The few juicy bits:
>>> The labels argued that MP3tunes was disqualified because it should have
>>> known that many of the songs users sideloaded from websites such as
>>> rapidshare were infringing. But Judge William Pauley disagreed, arguing
>>> that the DMCA imposes no obligation to investigate potentially
>>> infringing activity absent a specific complaint from copyright holders.
>>> The only exception is links to sites with URLs containing "red flag"
>>> words like "pirate" or "bootleg."
>>> EMI also argued that MP3tunes couldn't claim the DMCA safe harbor
>>> because it benefitted from its users' infringement and had the ability
>>> to control that infringement. But Judge Pauley disagreed. He held that
>>> there was no evidence MP3tunes directly profited from users' infringing
>>> sideloads. And he held that users, not MP3tunes, controlled which files
>>> users placed in their lockers.
>>> "Judge Pauley soundly rejected that line of reasoning, writing that
>>> "MP3tunes does not use a 'master copy' to store or play back songs
>>> stored in its lockers. Instead, MP3tunes uses a standard data
>>> compression algorithm that eliminates redundant digital data."
>>> This is probably going to be jurisprudence in favour of MU, and most of
>>> the cyberlockers out there.
>>> At the end of the day, the FBI raid did achieve a few things in favour
>>> of the *AA:
>>> 1. Give them a picture of the foreign rich guy they were talking about
>>> when pushing SOPA/PIPA
>>> 2. Excerted tremendous pressure on the cyberlocker system, with many
>>> deciding to close down (filesonic, fileserve, etc)
>>> 3. Divided the pirate movement.
>>> Pirate Parties International - General Talk
>>> pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
>>> <mailto:pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net>
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