[pp.int.general] Other (no sot good) reaction to MU joint complaint campaign

Justus Römeth squig at dfpx.de
Sun Jan 29 11:45:46 CET 2012


I doubt having MU run for one more day so people could get access to their
files would have been a big problem for the feds.

It is not standard procdeure, of behaviour you would expect of any
authority, though.

On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Josep Sànchez <papapep at gmx.com> wrote:

> On 29/01/12 11:14, Christian Hufgard wrote:
>
>> On 29.01.2012 11:00, Josep Sànchez wrote:
>>
>>> On 29/01/12 08:53, Christian Hufgard wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think the one you use is not an enough similar example: what you say
>>>>> is that you have your car in the garage, waiting to be repaired, and
>>>>> the
>>>>> feds destroy it with any need to do it, just because it's inside. Big
>>>>> difference, isn't it?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In that case I hope, you made a backup copy of your car before leaving
>>>> in the shop... :)
>>>>
>>>
>>> I might, or I might not. If I haven't, I will be really, really stupid
>>> but stupidity it's not illegal in Spain.(just take a look at our
>>> governments...)
>>>
>>
>> And it's not the goverments duty to defend stupid people for data loss,
>> is it?
>>
>
> I have never said that.
>
>
>  You are also allowed to lose your money by investing in criminal
>
>> stock companies.
>>
>
> That's not the actual situation. In my country when anybody does any
> action it is responsible for the collateral damages it might cause, and
> it's even more serious if they could have avoided or previewed them and
> didn't do it. It doesn't matter if its an individual, a government officer
> or a policeman.
> Are laws different in your country and in the USA?
>
> MU was not a "criminal company" *until* Virginia State authorities told
> the Feds to seize it. People could hire their services until that moment as
> they could do with any other company in the net. Financial services, ISP's
> and even US tax authorities were operating normally with MU. Are they also
> criminals?.
>
>
>  I imagine the Feds have seized MU's bank accounts simultaneously, more
>>> or less, to the detention of Schmitz and his co-workers, and I guess
>>> that the amount of money should be fairly enough (was or not MU a big
>>> profit company thanks to illegal activities?) to continue operations a
>>> fair time to remove illegal stuff and let legal user to recover their
>>> files.
>>>
>>> *Everybody* has it's responsability, even Feds, Virginia State
>>> authorities or whoever is behind this.
>>>
>>
>> Well, that's your point of view. I don't think the Feds or Virginia
>> State are responsible to keep MU running. And if the court determines
>> the raid was illegal, they gonna have to pay a pretty huge amount of
>> money to Kim and his fellows.
>>
>
> First was a matter of money, now of who has to run the service, what next?
> :)
>
> Cheers.
>
>
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