[pp.int.general] Other (no sot good) reaction to MU joint complaint campaign
choms at botmania.net
Sun Jan 29 15:37:58 CET 2012
Presumption of innocence? Oh, wait, that doesn't exists on the US... if so,
imho, you have to wait for a trial before condemn someone... but who cares
about justice? :)
2012/1/29 Christian Hufgard <pp at christian-hufgard.de>
> On 29.01.2012 11:29, Josep Sànchez wrote:
> >> You are also allowed to lose your money by investing in criminal
> >> stock companies.
> > That's not the actual situation. In my country when anybody does any
> > action it is responsible for the collateral damages it might cause, and
> > it's even more serious if they could have avoided or previewed them and
> > didn't do it. It doesn't matter if its an individual, a government
> > officer or a policeman.
> > Are laws different in your country and in the USA?
> Don't know about the US, but in germany police in nearly never made
> responsible for whatever they do. We had even our parties server raided
> a couple of days before an election without any consequences...
> > MU was not a "criminal company" *until* Virginia State authorities told
> > the Feds to seize it.
> Of course they were, otherwise the hadn't been raided. (A judge or a
> jury still might decide something different)
> > People could hire their services until that moment
> > as they could do with any other company in the net. Financial services,
> > ISP's and even US tax authorities were operating normally with MU. Are
> > they also criminals?.
> What for was Al Capone sent to Alcatraz? Murder or not paying his taxes?
> >> Well, that's your point of view. I don't think the Feds or Virginia
> >> State are responsible to keep MU running. And if the court determines
> >> the raid was illegal, they gonna have to pay a pretty huge amount of
> >> money to Kim and his fellows.
> > First was a matter of money, now of who has to run the service, what
> > next? :)
> Finally it's the matter of reason. If the law in the US does not force
> the Feds to keep a service online they were told to shut down, why
> should they do so?
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