[pp.int.general] Other (no sot good) reaction to MU joint complaint campaign

Kenneth Peiruza kenneth at pirata.cat
Sun Jan 29 15:40:03 CET 2012


PP-DE is acting SHAMEFULLY in this case.

What about the personal data of people using MU? didn't you had a
principle about defending privacy?

Shame.




Al 29/01/12 15:37, En/na Choms ha escrit:
> Presumption of innocence? Oh, wait, that doesn't exists on the US...
> if so, imho, you have to wait for a trial before condemn someone...
> but who cares about justice? :)
>
> 2012/1/29 Christian Hufgard <pp at christian-hufgard.de
> <mailto:pp at christian-hufgard.de>>
>
>     On 29.01.2012 11:29, Josep Sànchez wrote:
>     >>  You are also allowed to lose your money by investing in criminal
>     >> stock companies.
>     >
>     > That's not the actual situation. In my country when anybody does any
>     > action it is responsible for the collateral damages it might
>     cause, and
>     > it's even more serious if they could have avoided or previewed
>     them and
>     > didn't do it. It doesn't matter if its an individual, a government
>     > officer or a policeman.
>     > Are laws different in your country and in the USA?
>
>     Don't know about the US, but in germany police in nearly never made
>     responsible for whatever they do. We had even our parties server
>     raided
>     a couple of days before an election without any consequences...
>
>     > MU was not a "criminal company" *until* Virginia State
>     authorities told
>     > the Feds to seize it.
>
>     Of course they were, otherwise the hadn't been raided. (A judge or a
>     jury still might decide something different)
>
>     > People could hire their services until that moment
>     > as they could do with any other company in the net. Financial
>     services,
>     > ISP's and even US tax authorities were operating normally with
>     MU. Are
>     > they also criminals?.
>
>     What for was Al Capone sent to Alcatraz? Murder or not paying his
>     taxes?
>
>
>     >> Well, that's your point of view. I don't think the Feds or Virginia
>     >> State are responsible to keep MU running. And if the court
>     determines
>     >> the raid was illegal, they gonna have to pay a pretty huge
>     amount of
>     >> money to Kim and his fellows.
>     >
>     > First was a matter of money, now of who has to run the service, what
>     > next? :)
>
>     Finally it's the matter of reason. If the law in the US does not force
>     the Feds to keep a service online they were told to shut down, why
>     should they do so?
>
>
>     Christian
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