[pp.int.general] Towards a secure eDemocracy platform based on Web service standards

[Anouk Neeteson]

Don't forget the *abstention* possibility or blank voting.

On 14 July 2012 15:31, Kenneth Peiruza <kenneth at pirata.cat> wrote:

> There is no perfect voting system, so, stressing whilst trying to find
> one is a waste of time.
>
> One can be forced to vote for anything, even in physical elections. Do
> you really think than women are free to pick their vote in male
> chauvinist countries? It's not about "somebody pressing you to vote for
> X in front of your computer". IMO, that is pointless.
>
> What happens in districts with only a bunch of voters? If there's 50
> voters in a tiny village, do you really think that the mafia-major of
> the village will not notice that you didn't stick to what he wanted?
> it's fucking easy, the one entering a privacy cabinet to hide what's his
> vote, that's the one who didn't voted what he wanted.
>
> You can't make any election 100% safe, trustable and private. There's
> always some flaws. As in software security, you must reach a figure
> close to 100% but never expect 100%.
>
>
> In PP-CAT we have a voting system where everyone can see its own vote
> and the total result, and only the System administrators (3) of the
> server hosting the voting system can check the database to see what
> voted every member (so far, it has never been done/requested).
>
> The software even allows to make the vote public in case of "Y/N"
> questions (just 1 option to vote), however we hidden it to ensure
> voter's privacy (as this info was public, not only for members).
>
> This system relies upon trusting these sysadmins, who are a technical
> body, not a political structure. If there was any problem with these
> people, we can just get new ppl to take care of the servers. However, so
> far, there's no "factions" or "sides" in our party, so, we trust this
> people for kind'of meritocracy.
>
> We only use direct democracy, however this organization model (not the
> software) would be compatible with liquid democracy as well.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Kenneth
>
> Al 14/07/12 04:20, En/na Richard Stallman ha escrit:
> >     How do you make sure in electronic, non-secret voting that people do
> not
> >     get pressured to vote a certain way (think of Neighbourhood,
> religious
> >     comunities, spouses, parents, employers, ...)?
> >
> > You can't.  That is why government elections need secret ballots.
> >
> > However, there are other kinds of votes which in general
> > are not secret.  For instance, votes of legislatures.  Votes within
> > many organizations.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Dr Richard Stallman
> > President, Free Software Foundation
> > 51 Franklin St
> > Boston MA 02110
> > USA
> > www.fsf.org  www.gnu.org
> > Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software.
> >   Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call
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