[pp.int.general] PPI board meeting minutes and some updates about the conference

[Kenneth Peiruza]

Hi Justus,

Yes, Galicia can't get ordinary membership with current statutes,
however, the situation in Spain is quite different of that in Germany.
It's closer to the one in Italy with PP-IT and PP-SudTirol.

At least 7 Spanish regions have a mother tongue different than Spanish
and represent a 40% of the Spanish population. That doesn't happens in
Germany.

We have 3 regions with a significative % of voters not feeling Spaniards
(or not so much) in Spain: Catalonia
, Vasque Country and Galicia. In a minor %, you have Asturias, Navarra,
Valencia and Balearic Islands, then you have the rest of 17 autonomous
regions.

In Catalonia and Vasque country, over 55% of people votes always for
non-spanish parties, sometimes up to 65%.

The Spanish commies (IU, Izquierda Unida) fixed this by creating a
confederation: One party in Catalonia and it's brother outside it (ICV +
IU) and this is the model we're pushing forward in PP-CAT. Most Spaniard
commies vote happily to ICV in Catalonia, whilst most Catalan commies
vote ICV as well. Years ago, it was all IU. After organizing like
IU+ICV, commies increased a 50% its voters in Catalonia.

That is our idea: work together in International and state-wide issues,
and organize independently on each region whenever possible (general
elections are done region by regions in Spain, as in many countries).

Samir (and I can't tell if Marcel as well) pointed out that we should
sort-out this situation in Spain. He proposed PP-ES to loose its full
membership status and urged PP-ES + CAT ( and now + GAL as well ) to
create an umbrella organization which would be the full-member of PPI.

That would make sense, as PP-CAT is 3.5 times bigger than PP-ES, it's a
bit weird that they have full-membership status whilst we simply can't.

There's a Spanish pirate for every 225000 Spaniards whilst there's a
Catalan pirate for every 9966 Catalans... Moreover, we have the only 2
pirate representatives of Spain. On the last Spanish general election
(November 2011), over 90% of the Pirate votes were for PP-CAT...

PP-ES has had several internal issues in the last years... It looked
like its new bureau was fixing it, but suddenly it fucked up and got
frozen again... Sadly, PP-ES hasn't taken profit of its potentiality
since 2006.

That's the key reason why new regional pirate parties arise in Spain.
Most of us aren't secessionists (PP-CAT has a % of secessionists similar
to that in Catalan society), we just try to make our job in the most
efficient possible way. Expect others to be created as well over the
next years if PP-ES donesn't fixes it's statute and internal democracy
issues (working on it since 2009...).

Forget about PP-CAT integrating into PP-ES, there's no way. Even if
PP-ES fixed its statutes and internal democracy issues, at least 50% of
PP-CAT members wouldn't be part of a Spanish party, and thinking in
election results, a huge % of we would decline the offering. So, we need
another way.

PP-CAT and PP-GAL are pushing for a Pirate Confederation in Spain, to
define basic rules for common candidatures (like EU parliament's one),
where PP-ES can have federated regional parties like Madrid, Andalucia
or whoever wants, whilst others can choose to become members of the
confederation, being PP-ES itself one of the confederation members.

However, internal work in PP-ES is terribly slow, thus, if we can't
agree something before PPI's GA, we will probably propose an statute
modification, changing "country" for "territory", so, PP-CAT and PP-GAL
would be able to achieve full membership status.

This modification would ease the integration of parties PP-CAT and
PP-GAL into PPI, by PP-ES confirming that it's not going to present
candidatures/lead activity in these territories, and easing the
admission of new PPI members in places like Palestine,
Turkish-Kurdistan, Irak's Kurdistan and so on, which lack a state but
have completely independent politics of Israel, Turkey or Irak.

Would you like/support such a statute modification?


Best regards,

Kenneth Peiruza
Pirates de Catalunya
http://pirata.cat

On 02/03/12 02:49, Justus Römeth wrote:
> Thank you for posting Lola! And thank you Pat, Lola and Thomas for
> doing a job 6 people were elected with 3 people!
>
> One question: How could Galicia get ordinary membership, though?
>
> And another would/could/should be: Is observer membership by the
> German state parties something PPI welcomes, or do you merely accept
> it (as there is a paralell with the situation in Spain)? How about
> local chapters (Pirate party of Hanover, pirate party of Frankfurt,
> ...)? Maybe this point merits discussion during the GA (in the
> unlikely event we run out of topics).
>
> -J
>
> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 1:06 AM, Lola Voronina
> <lola.voronina at pp-international.net
> <mailto:lola.voronina at pp-international.net>> wrote:
>
>     Fellow Pirates,
>
>     Enclosed is a link to the minutes of the last PPI board meeting: 
>     http://int.piratenpartei.de/PPI_Board_Minutes_2012-02-28
>
>     We also updated the conference
>     page: http://int.piratenpartei.de/PPI_Conference_2012. The next
>     PPI conference will take place in Prague on 14-15 of April. We are
>     currently working on a program (here is a
>     draft: https://ppi.piratenpad.de/ppi-conference-agenda) and
>     invitations.
>     If you want to submit any statute amendment or other proposal add
>     it to the proposal
>     page: http://int.piratenpartei.de/PPI_Conference_2012/Proposals or
>     write to /board at pp-international.net
>     <mailto:board at pp-international.net>/.
>
>     Best regards,
>     Lola Voronina,
>     Chief Administrative Officer, Pirate Parties International
>     International Coordinator, Pirate Party of Russia
>
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