[pp.int.general] PPI board meeting minutes and some updates about the conference.

Kenneth Peiruza kenneth at pirata.cat
Sun Mar 4 11:48:23 CET 2012


Hi Isabel,

It would be great to see some Galician Pirates in the forthcoming GA.
Please think about it! There's going to be 6 PP-ES delegates and 4
PP-CAT delegates there, so, we can have a nice time with a lot of Pilsen
beer :)


Regards,

Kenneth

On 04/03/12 10:59, Isabel Fernández wrote:
> Hello Justus,
>
> We don't think PPI's job regulate between pirates parties either. That's
> why we said we'll declare nothing of the sort.
>
> Our suggestion was based on the premise 'one legal territorial pirate
> party - one vote' that we think it's a more fair than the actual
> situation. We think PPI could give it some thought to this issue.
>
> We'd love to send a delegate to the GA, but rumours are saing that we'll
> face elections next autumn at Galician Parlament and still there's a lot
> work to do... we're not sure we can attend to Prague. Generally rumours
> on this subject turn out to be true at the end. Maybe next time we are
> able to send Galician Delegation.
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Isabel Fernandez.
>
>
> On 03/03/12 10:51, Justus Römeth wrote:
>> Thank you Isabel (and the rest of PP-GAL),
>>
>> I don't think PPI's job is to regulate between individual pirate parties,
>> but rather to keep the movement growing, by providing infrastructure and a
>> place to meet for pirates who's country does not have a PP, and by helping
>> them through the early stages of forming a party. Therefore I don't think a
>> model that would give PPDE ~20 times as much voting power as the next
>> biggest party (PPSE is still not a member) would be appropriate.
>>
>> That is not to say that the current model of PPI concerning the situation
>> in Spain is optimal. It is not. I think your proposed solution would make
>> sense for something like PPEU, or a PPI with a much broadened scope (as
>> well as institutions like the EP, but that is a different matter). As of
>> yet I don't see the latter happening, however.
>>
>> Are you (PP-GAL) planning to send a delegate to the General assembly in
>> Prague?
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Justus
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 3:09 AM, HerNenya <isabel.fdez at mundo-r.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I do apologize since last message was my first mail to this list. I'm
>>> not used to deal w/ digests.
>>>
>>> I repeat the message for better reading.
>>>
>>> Best Regards to all,
>>>
>>>
>>> Isabel Fernandez.
>>> -----------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> This is a message made by the members of public relations team for
>>> PP-GAL. It is agreed by all the members of mentioned team and we want to
>>> send it through our link in this mailing list of PPI members so it must
>>> be understood in the name of PP-GAL party and not from the sender who
>>> forwards this message.
>>>
>>> Since there were direct references to PP-GAL in this list and the way we
>>> organize ourselves in Spain, we consider it is important to be heard in
>>> our oppinion before of the rest of pirates parties of the world.
>>>
>>> First of all, we would like to say we are 2 months old as a political
>>> party in Spain and our foundation is based on the structure of Spain as
>>> a country formed by autonomies as such established in the Spanish
>>> Constitution Act [1] in article #148 in order to organize ourselves in
>>> the Spaniard territory. Moreover we have our own idiosyncrasy as
>>> language and culture quite different from other spaniard territories.
>>> Therefore we are an approved political party by the competent Ministry
>>> with same rights and duties as PP-ES and PP-CAT.
>>>
>>> As Kenneth from PP-CAT said in other previous message, we are
>>> encouraging a confederation at country level to organize common tasks
>>> that affect us as a nation such the cases of #megacomplaint and
>>> #opColapso (fighting against Sinde-Wert law [2]) that we are supporting
>>> PP-ES, PP-CAT and PP-GAL. Last week we have created a mailing list
>>> called pirata-34 to discuss those affairs.
>>>
>>> Regarding the subject about who can vote as a country or by the amount
>>> of pirate members, we consider system of countries is not fair precisely
>>> because of proportion of the population densities and pirates members. A
>>> possible fair solution (as a suggestion) to this matter could be that
>>> depending on the number of members from each pirate party, each party
>>> will provide a proportional amount of the contingency fund of PPI, as
>>> well, each party would have the proportional weight in PPI decisions.
>>>
>>> Refering to mentions about how to organize internally the different
>>> pirate parties in Spain, we considered that this mailing list is not the
>>> appropiate place to discuss about it, so we are not going to declare
>>> anything here.
>>>
>>> [1] http://www.lamoncloa.gob.es/IDIOMAS/9/Espana/LeyFundamental/index.htm
>>> [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ley_Sinde
>>>
>>>
>>> Public Relations Team of PP-GAL.
>>> http://piratasdegalicia.org/web/
>>>
>>> --
>>> Isabel Fdez
>>> GPG EA63DF8E
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
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