[pp.int.general] Are there "good" and "wrong" Rigths?

[Justus Römeth]

Not sure what a political party should do. As for individuals, I fully
support Dario's opinion.

Re direct democracy: It is a two-sided sword. I think getting gay rights
for example accepted was made easier through representative democracy; look
at Poland, where a majority of the people are still against gay rights (so
living homosexually could be made illegal if Poland had a direct
democracy). It is harder to protect minorities in such cases.
Also, the majority of people in Europe in general is against the death
penalty in principle. However, after a very cruel crime (think Marc
Detroux) there might be a temporary majority to have him sentenced to
death. A direct democracy is great, but it has it's own issues and problems
we need to work out.

2012/3/28 Rok Andrée <rok.andree at piratskastranka.net>

> Hi!
>
> Should we defend the right to NOT participate in a General Strike equally
>> to the Right in participating in it?
>
>
> To even pose such a question is to be against freedome of expression,
> though, opinion, belife etc. To say "You must strike as we are the good
> ones" is to deny all other beliefs and as such you are no different than
> a tyrant. You are asking if the fundamental human right,
> the freedom of expression, should be applied only selectively to
> the followers of the more powerful camp.
>
> Now for the explanation.
> First thing that has to be understood is that the "bad" people on the
> other side dont think they are "bad", they think they are justified in what
> they are doing. People supporting them also believe that supporting them is
> the right thing to do and that YOU, the people on strike are the bad
> people, the people in the wrong. And by alienating them you prove to them
> that they are right, that you are "bad".
> So who is right? Well right is the one who wins, but that's besides the
> point.
> Democracy was founded on this very basis, that a nation of people will
> never agree on any point completely. You have to accept that other people
> have different opinions that you will not always be able to change, and be
> the civilized person to allow them to have those opinions as they allow you
> to have yours.
>
> To quote George Carlin (i'm paraphrazing, cant find the accurate quote)
> Rights that can be taken away at any time are not rights but
> temporary privileges.
>
>
> Rok Andrée
> Piratska stranka Slovenije <http://piratskastranka.net>
> (Slovenian Pirate Party)
>
>
>
> On 28 March 2012 10:54, Francisco George <francisco.george at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> My question is for all fellow Pirates all over the world.
>>
>> Do You think there is "good" and "wrong" rights under certain
>> circumstances?
>>
>> Let's take the General Strike that will take place in Spain tomorrow
>> March, 29th
>>
>> Should we defend the right to NOT participate in a General Strike equally
>> to the Right in participating in it?
>>
>> Or in the frame of such event should we condemn the people's right to not
>> giving support to the event?
>>
>> Personally I understand that both rights are equal and should be defended
>> as strongly both of them.
>> The Human Rights don't make any distinction between "Wrong & Good" ones.
>> Freedom & Rights are equals and none shoul prevail on the other one.
>>
>> Thanks a lot for your thoughts on that matter be cause here in Spain the
>> dominant philosofy is "If you are not with me, you are against me" There is
>> No
>> tolerance for a Neutral position.
>>
>> Best Regards
>>
>> Francisco George
>> Press Officer PP-ES
>>
>>
>>
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