[pp.int.general] Research Survey.

[Jay Emerson]

"This is how I imagine ancient Greek philosophers worked. They sat in
circles and for hours and days debated pointless things instead of taking
some action. We are true direct democrats :)"

Intellectual circle jerk turned ookie cookie.  I ain't eating it, and
neither should we.

Fill out the survey or don't.  :-)
On May 8, 2012 7:36 AM, "Marko Mitrovic" <marko.mitrovic at piratskapartija.com>
wrote:

> This is how I imagine ancient Greek philosophers worked. They sat in
> circles and for hours and days debated pointless things instead of taking
> some action. We are true direct democrats :)
>
> And I can't make paypal donation, it's not functional in my country :P
>
> On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Kenneth Peiruza <kenneth at pirata.cat>wrote:
>
>>  Dear Andrew,
>>
>> Ok, I understand we must be efficient, right, but this whole thread is
>> POINTLESS.
>>
>> There's loads of FLOSS tools to create polls/surveys and it just takes 3
>> minutes to install them, or just pay 30$ to someone else and you'll get it
>> as a service.
>>
>> Creating the poll/survey itself is time consuming in any platform, free
>> or privative.
>>
>> This whole chatting wasted a lot more time than creating the survey
>> itself. Let's take 5 minutes / participant's email * 18, that's at least 90
>> minutes, + readers.
>>
>> I charge my hours from 40 to 80 €, so, we wasted more than 100 €, 4 times
>> what it costs to pay to get this thing done.
>>
>> Talking about efficiency, we are stupid.
>>
>> Next one to reply this thread is invited to make a paypal donation of 5€.
>> In 2 hours we'll get the cash to pay it.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Kenneth
>>
>>
>>
>> Al 08/05/12 09:18, En/na Andrew Norton ha escrit:
>>
>> On 5/5/2012 11:23 AM, Richard Stallman wrote:
>> >
>> https://docs.google.com/a/pirateparty.org.au/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dGN0NkNDODVHZHg3T0hKSWFtT1VYbXc6MQ
>>
>> > I suspect that people will find it impossible to fill in answers there
>> > without running a large nonfree Javascript program.
>>
>> > The Pirate Party doesn't campaign for abolishing nonfree software.
>> > But is it good Pirate Party activities to push people into using
>> > nonfree software?
>>
>> A better question we have to ask ourselves is, "what is the aim of the
>> Pirate Party?"
>>
>> Is it to be the political arm for the FSF, as Sinn Fein was for the IRA?
>> No.
>> Therefore your question is really more of a distraction from our core
>> aims. Personally, I don't care if it's 'free' not 'nonfree' so long as
>> it enabled me to do the work that needs doing. We could spend time
>> making sure we only use 'free software', or we could spend time working
>> on our core issues. I think out time is better spent on the latter. If
>> there's a readily available 'free' option, that takes little/no extra
>> time and effort, then sure, use it if you want, but we have so much to
>> do, and so little in the way of resources, that it's a time&effort
>> wasting distraction that we can ill-afford.
>>
>> Sure, Mozart could have spent another 90mins making a pure html version
>> for 'free use', but that's 90mins that has been spent to do the same
>> job, and thus 90mins that couldn't be spent on something else, like
>> ACTA, or any one of a dozen other pressing issues. then the extra time
>> to process things after.... It's a luxury we can't afford, even if you
>> can.
>>
>> And suggesting we take extra time, to satisfy some philosophical
>> position that isn't even a pirate position... that just doesn't seem
>> logical, does it? More like touting a philosophy for the sake of it
>> really.
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>>
>> > --
>> > Dr Richard Stallman
>> > President, Free Software Foundation
>> > 51 Franklin St
>> > Boston MA 02110
>> > USA
>> > www.fsf.org  www.gnu.org
>> > Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software.
>> >   Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call
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