[pp.int.general] Tyrant banks, walk the plank!

[Justus Römeth]

So you think this money goes into the German banks because of benevolence?
I think it is just another form of corruption in a way. Well hidden, but
there is no real reason to do it other than politician saying that it is
'without alternative' (Oh how I hate those words!)

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 2:15 AM, Kenneth Peiruza <kenneth at pirata.cat> wrote:

>  That is a little bit simplistic and pre-judgement...
>
> Corruption exists, and is shameful and harmful, but corruption doesn't
> evaporate a 10% of Spanish government's budget, banks do it.
>
> BTW, most Spanish, Italian and Greek debt, which is the main "reason" for
> cutbacks in healthcare, education and every other social expenditure.
>
> Do you know who owns most of that debt? private german banks.
>
> That is why Mrs. Merkel is so stressed with the possibility of Greek
> government stopping any debt payments.
>
> Regards,
>
> Kenneth
>
> Al 16/05/12 18:29, En/na Justus Römeth ha escrit:
>
> Well, we are talking<http://www.zeit.de/wirtschaft/2012-05/europa-jugend-arbeitslosigkeit/seite-1>about it in Germany, because of immigration and our universal care system
> it will hit us sooner rather than later. I don't think that austerity is
> the biggest problem, rather it is corrupt and incapable politicians that
> can not be voted out of office (like in Spain, Italy or Greece) and budget
> cuts that hit social welfare and education rather than infrastructure,
> politicians' wages or saving 'important' industries like banks, car
> manufacturers and the likes.
>
>  The Pirate Party Germany is against the ESM in its current form (well,
> officially afaik only the PP of NRW is against it, but so far any pirate
> you talked to thinks that it is a bad idea that is clearly not working).
> Combine that with the unconditional basic income and the freedom of
> education (as in educational material and free schools and universities)
> that we have as official aims and I think we have found a way to solve this
> crisis over here.
>
> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Richard Stallman <rms at gnu.org> wrote:
>
>> The biggest political issue in much of Europe today is the austerity
>> death spiral, aka shock capitalism.
>>
>> That problem is not occurring in Germany, so the Pirate Party can get
>> votes there without talking about that issue.  However, a party in
>> Spain, Italy, or Greece which doesn't give that issue an important
>> place is not addressing the people's concerns.  The coming Greek
>> election will be, in effect, a referendum on this.
>>
>> I therefore propose that the Pirate Movement take a stand: Tyrant
>> banks, walk the plank!
>>
>> --
>> Dr Richard Stallman
>> President, Free Software Foundation
>> 51 Franklin St
>> Boston MA 02110
>> USA
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