[pp.int.general] Tyrant banks, walk the plank!

[Kenneth Peiruza]

No, I'm not against German banks, even lesser with German people and not
at all with PP-DE.

It was just an appointment to make it clear why the German government
puts extra pressure in cutbacks:

Spanish government has put around 300.000 MEUR into the Spanish banks
that owe debt to German banks. that is almost a 20% of the budget every
year. This is to save Spanish banks from cracking down, sure, but if
they crack, the ones that would crack just afterwards would be the
German lenders. That is what I meant with my email, that Merkel requires
cutbacks in southern Europe to save the German banks.


Regards,

Kenneth

Al 17/05/12 02:52, En/na Justus Römeth ha escrit:
> So you think this money goes into the German banks because of
> benevolence? I think it is just another form of corruption in a way.
> Well hidden, but there is no real reason to do it other than
> politician saying that it is 'without alternative' (Oh how I hate
> those words!)
>
> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 2:15 AM, Kenneth Peiruza <kenneth at pirata.cat
> <mailto:kenneth at pirata.cat>> wrote:
>
>     That is a little bit simplistic and pre-judgement...
>
>     Corruption exists, and is shameful and harmful, but corruption
>     doesn't evaporate a 10% of Spanish government's budget, banks do it.
>
>     BTW, most Spanish, Italian and Greek debt, which is the main
>     "reason" for cutbacks in healthcare, education and every other
>     social expenditure.
>
>     Do you know who owns most of that debt? private german banks.
>
>     That is why Mrs. Merkel is so stressed with the possibility of
>     Greek government stopping any debt payments.
>
>     Regards,
>
>     Kenneth
>
>     Al 16/05/12 18:29, En/na Justus Römeth ha escrit:
>>     Well, we are talking
>>     <http://www.zeit.de/wirtschaft/2012-05/europa-jugend-arbeitslosigkeit/seite-1>
>>     about it in Germany, because of immigration and our universal
>>     care system it will hit us sooner rather than later. I don't
>>     think that austerity is the biggest problem, rather it is corrupt
>>     and incapable politicians that can not be voted out of office
>>     (like in Spain, Italy or Greece) and budget cuts that hit social
>>     welfare and education rather than infrastructure, politicians'
>>     wages or saving 'important' industries like banks, car
>>     manufacturers and the likes.
>>
>>     The Pirate Party Germany is against the ESM in its current form
>>     (well, officially afaik only the PP of NRW is against it, but so
>>     far any pirate you talked to thinks that it is a bad idea that is
>>     clearly not working).
>>     Combine that with the unconditional basic income and the freedom
>>     of education (as in educational material and free schools and
>>     universities) that we have as official aims and I think we have
>>     found a way to solve this crisis over here.
>>
>>     On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Richard Stallman <rms at gnu.org
>>     <mailto:rms at gnu.org>> wrote:
>>
>>         The biggest political issue in much of Europe today is the
>>         austerity
>>         death spiral, aka shock capitalism.
>>
>>         That problem is not occurring in Germany, so the Pirate Party
>>         can get
>>         votes there without talking about that issue.  However, a
>>         party in
>>         Spain, Italy, or Greece which doesn't give that issue an
>>         important
>>         place is not addressing the people's concerns.  The coming Greek
>>         election will be, in effect, a referendum on this.
>>
>>         I therefore propose that the Pirate Movement take a stand: Tyrant
>>         banks, walk the plank!
>>
>>         --
>>         Dr Richard Stallman
>>         President, Free Software Foundation
>>         51 Franklin St
>>         Boston MA 02110
>>         USA
>>         www.fsf.org <http://www.fsf.org>  www.gnu.org
>>         <http://www.gnu.org>
>>         Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software.
>>          Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call
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