[pp.int.general] Don't roast our planet

[HerNenya]

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On 18/05/12 03:20, roberto aka robske wrote:
> While I oppose global heating, I do support actions to cut CO2 and
> other pollutants output. Even if global heating wouldn't be true, we'd
> still have the problem of these gases endangering our ozone layer
> (which is critical for modern day's life on Earth), polluting areas
> and causing a health hazard for life. Another reason why I'd support
> is, that I wouldn't want to gamble our civilization on it, as earlier
> mentioned by others.
>
> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 9:32 PM, Charly Pache <charly.pache at gmail.com
> <mailto:charly.pache at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Thanks for the replies and links! I really think we should create
>     a special pirate climate taskforce, indeed, there is passion here.
>
>     You're right by the way, it's a really important topic and we
>     should try to do something even if we are not sure about the
>     effect of human activity, the cartoon illustrated it very well. As
>     I said, I'm not against protecting our environment but we have to
>     stay rational and not fall into fear-and-emotions reaction scheme.
>     And if it is so important, then spend all the money to search for
>     alternatives, or even forbid human activity which increase the
>     temperature.
>
>     Even in the guardian's website you can see that the situation is
>     not that alarming as many think:
>     # a
>     "points to a rise of about three-quarters of a degree celsius in
>     the past century" [1]
>
>     then they agree it's not more than the natural increase of
>     ~1°C/century already observed before the industrial revolution
>     because we are recovering from the little ice age [3]
>
>     # b
>     ""If some newly discovered factor can account for the climate
>     change then why aren't carbon dioxide and the other greenhouse
>     gases producing the warming that basic physics tells us they
>     should be?"   [2]
>
>     because as said, (co2 increase)/(temperature increase) is not
>     linear as assumed in the IPCC model but logarithmic [5].
>
>     # c
>     here is an article about the cause/consequence roles of
>     temperature increase and co2 increase : [4]
>
>     # d
>     i couldn't find the story of the sun scientist who made the
>     predictions, he died some years ago. But here an other article
>     about cycle 25 of our beloved sun, which would peak in 2022 [6]
>
>
>     [1] http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/dec/27/world-warming
>     [2]
>     http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/dec/30/humans-causing-global-warming
>     [3] http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/sep/29/little-ice-age
>     [4]
>     http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/06/09/a-study-the-temperature-rise-has-caused-the-co2-increase-not-the-other-way-around/
>     [5]
>     http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/03/08/the-logarithmic-effect-of-carbon-dioxide/
>     [6]
>     http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2093264/Forget-global-warming--Cycle-25-need-worry-NASA-scientists-right-Thames-freezing-again.html
>
>
>
>     On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 8:11 PM, Jan Lettow <janlettow at gmail.com
>     <mailto:janlettow at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         Grist also has a series on this.
>
>         http://grist.org/series/skeptics/
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> -- 
> Roberto Moretti
>
> PPNL Member & Indie Games Developer.
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