[pp.int.general] pp.international.general Digest, Vol 67, Issue 37

Josef Ohlsson Collentine international at piratpartiet.se
Tue Sep 25 18:41:59 CEST 2012 

For the sake of conversation can someone from PPI please start moderating
this list... Especially for talks about PPES vs PPCAT that are taking over
majority of threads.

/josef

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 10:34 AM, <
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>    1. Re: Obsession with Gibraltar (Kenneth Peiruza)
>    2. Re: Italian Pirate Party - Scandal (Kenneth Peiruza)
>    3. Re: Italian Pirate Party - Scandal (HerNenya)
>    4. Re: Italian Pirate Party - Scandal (Zbigniew ?ukasiak)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 17:26:32 +0200
> From: Kenneth Peiruza <kenneth at pirata.cat>
> To: pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Obsession with Gibraltar
> Message-ID: <5061CD28.2010907 at pirata.cat>
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> Poor Antonio, he's the one who didn't knew about the resignation of the
> whole CoA. So, nobody can attend his whining xDD
>
> BTW Antonio, you, over-lord-of-law-interpretation. Didn't you realized
> that you're a single person and CoA can't attend personal petitions but
> just PPI member's petitions? Hopefully, PPI is formed by Pirate Parties,
> not by individual fools.
>
> So, stop whining, every time you write about this CoA shit, you
> strengthen my point that you aren't as smart as you believe you're.
> You're just a mess of radical Spanish nationalism and totalitarian
> deliriums: you're against liquid/direct democracy calling it idiocracy,
> and there's PP-CAT or Gibraltar in 1 out of 2 emails sent by you.
>
> Everyone knows these things in your party, that's why they banned you
> from their mailing lists. AFAIK, you're still a member of PP-ES because
> PP-ES secretary left the party, and there's nobody left to process
> resignations...
>
> And as you're not going to believe me, I'd suggest you to check PPI
> statutes to see the attributions of CoA, as we did to present our points :)
>
> You know, your personal desires can't be over PPI statutes!
>
>
> Get a life!!!
>
> K.
>
> PS: I've you in my spam filter, so, I will not read your replies :)
>
>
> Al 25/09/12 16:57, En/na Jordi Soucheiron ha escrit:
> > Don't feed the troll
> >
> > 2012/9/25 Antonio Garcia <ningunotro at hotmail.com
> > <mailto:ningunotro at hotmail.com>>
> >
> >     As member of the remembered Court of Arbitration, maybe your
> >     priority should be to tell our readers where my complaint about "a
> >     breach of PPI Statutes" and "fraudulent rephrasing of an PPI
> >     Statutes Article to fit unwarranted desires of some"... remain
> >     lost in the CoA bureaucracy.
> >
> >     My use of Gibraltar as a figure is only for the sake of comparing
> >     gravity of the issue, and smearing my anarchist background on its
> >     use is unworthy of you and the post you occupied, a clear Ad Hominem.
> >
> >     Antonio.
> >     PP-ES
> >
> >
> >     > Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 15:36:00 +0200
> >     > From: arturo.martinez at pp-international.net
> >     <mailto:arturo.martinez at pp-international.net>
> >     > To: pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> >     <mailto:pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net>
> >     > Subject: [pp.int.general] Obsession with Gibraltar
> >
> >     >
> >     > Dear Antonio Garcia,
> >     >
> >     > Given that 98% of people in Gibraltar voted against joining
> Spain...
> >     > Why would a pirate Spanish or otherwise find offence?
> >     >
> >     > Your repetitive circular arguments suggest that you believe that
> >     > repeating a lie many times will make it true and that contrary
> >     to your
> >     > self-confessed anarchist outlook, you are a Spanish nationalist.
> >     >
> >     > I am yet to hear a bona fide anarchist of any nationality moan
> about
> >     > Gibraltar
> >     >
> >     > Have a nice day
> >     >
> >     > On 09/25/2012 03:14 PM,
> >     > pp.international.general-request at lists.pirateweb.net
> >     <mailto:pp.international.general-request at lists.pirateweb.net> wrote:
> >     > > about the meaning of the word "Country" in the Statutes of PPI
> >     to grant Spain an unasked for second Gibraltar in Catalonia, and
> >     fraudulently rephrased one of the articles of the Statutes to
> >     grant the General Assembly more discretionary decision power on
> >     the admittance of new members than she really has (sidetracking
> >     for the Catalonian Pirate Party provisions in the Statutes that
> >     were strictly observed to reject the application of other Pirate
> >     Parties), will be declared void.
> >     >
> >     >
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 17:28:47 +0200
> From: Kenneth Peiruza <kenneth at pirata.cat>
> To: pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Italian Pirate Party - Scandal
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> Al 25/09/12 17:10, En/na MRE ha escrit:
> > Dear Antonio,
> >
> > What you said in your last email I already knew was your opinion, I
> > wasn't asking you to repeat that, I'm sorry if I wasn't clear enough.
> >
> > I was asking your opinion on another question: Do you think that the
> > PPI should be able to decide who is and who is not a member of PP-IT?
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> >                Muriel
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2012/9/25 Antonio Garcia <ningunotro at hotmail.com>:
> >> That is an easy one, Muriel. I'm surprised you dare ask.
> >>
> >> Because the PPI GA did not have the right, per its own Statutes, to
> grant
> >> Pirates de Catalunya full member status the way it was done after
> Kenneth
> >> blackmailed it threatening to derail the GA with all the international
> press
> >> present only months before two important elections in Germany.
> >>
>
> Hahahahaha
>
> Poor fool.
>
> You missed Samir and Thomas trolling the GA in front of the press,
> right? maybe that happened whilst the GA was voting and there was no
> PP-ES delegate present in the room to vote...
>
> Oh man, have you considered suicide?
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 17:31:56 +0200
> From: HerNenya <isabel.fdez at mundo-r.com>
> To: pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Italian Pirate Party - Scandal
> Message-ID: <5061CE6C.4060207 at mundo-r.com>
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> On 25/09/12 16:43, Francisco George wrote:
> >
> > Catalonia is reaching out for idenpendency so they will have all the
> > time to be restored as full member.
> That statement is not quite accurate.
>
> The catalonian people are discussing this issue, but they haven't get an
> statement yet and it is not so sure they are going to be an independent
> state.
>
> So please, use other arguments and try not to manipulate other people's
> views to reach your own purposes.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Isabel Fdez.
> PP-GAL
> >
> >
> > 2012/9/25 <pp.international.general-request at lists.pirateweb.net
> > <mailto:pp.international.general-request at lists.pirateweb.net>>
> >
> >     Re: Italian Pirate Party - Scandal
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> --
> Isabel Fernandez
> GPG EA63DF8E
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> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 17:34:27 +0200
> From: Zbigniew ?ukasiak <zzbbyy at gmail.com>
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> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Kenneth Peiruza <kenneth at pirata.cat>
> wrote:
>
> > Al 25/09/12 17:10, En/na MRE ha escrit:
> > > Dear Antonio,
> > >
> > > What you said in your last email I already knew was your opinion, I
> > > wasn't asking you to repeat that, I'm sorry if I wasn't clear enough.
> > >
> > > I was asking your opinion on another question: Do you think that the
> > > PPI should be able to decide who is and who is not a member of PP-IT?
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > >                Muriel
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2012/9/25 Antonio Garcia <ningunotro at hotmail.com>:
> > >> That is an easy one, Muriel. I'm surprised you dare ask.
> > >>
> > >> Because the PPI GA did not have the right, per its own Statutes, to
> > grant
> > >> Pirates de Catalunya full member status the way it was done after
> > Kenneth
> > >> blackmailed it threatening to derail the GA with all the international
> > press
> > >> present only months before two important elections in Germany.
> > >>
> >
> > Hahahahaha
> >
> > Poor fool.
> >
> > You missed Samir and Thomas trolling the GA in front of the press,
> > right? maybe that happened whilst the GA was voting and there was no
> > PP-ES delegate present in the room to vote...
> >
> > Oh man, have you considered suicide?
> >
> >
> No I feel ashamed for taking part in this conversation.  Is that acceptable
> for this mailing list?
>
> --
> zby
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