[pp.int.general] pp.international.general Digest, Vol 67, Issue 37
Kenneth Peiruza
kenneth at pirata.cat
Tue Sep 25 18:51:32 CEST 2012
I'd support it, we never start it, just check the logs.
Al 25/09/12 18:41, En/na Josef Ohlsson Collentine ha escrit:
> For the sake of conversation can someone from PPI please start
> moderating this list... Especially for talks about PPES vs PPCAT that
> are taking over majority of threads.
>
> /josef
>
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> 1. Re: Obsession with Gibraltar (Kenneth Peiruza)
> 2. Re: Italian Pirate Party - Scandal (Kenneth Peiruza)
> 3. Re: Italian Pirate Party - Scandal (HerNenya)
> 4. Re: Italian Pirate Party - Scandal (Zbigniew ?ukasiak)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 17:26:32 +0200
> From: Kenneth Peiruza <kenneth at pirata.cat <mailto:kenneth at pirata.cat>>
> To: pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
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> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Obsession with Gibraltar
> Message-ID: <5061CD28.2010907 at pirata.cat
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> Poor Antonio, he's the one who didn't knew about the resignation
> of the
> whole CoA. So, nobody can attend his whining xDD
>
> BTW Antonio, you, over-lord-of-law-interpretation. Didn't you realized
> that you're a single person and CoA can't attend personal
> petitions but
> just PPI member's petitions? Hopefully, PPI is formed by Pirate
> Parties,
> not by individual fools.
>
> So, stop whining, every time you write about this CoA shit, you
> strengthen my point that you aren't as smart as you believe you're.
> You're just a mess of radical Spanish nationalism and totalitarian
> deliriums: you're against liquid/direct democracy calling it
> idiocracy,
> and there's PP-CAT or Gibraltar in 1 out of 2 emails sent by you.
>
> Everyone knows these things in your party, that's why they banned you
> from their mailing lists. AFAIK, you're still a member of PP-ES
> because
> PP-ES secretary left the party, and there's nobody left to process
> resignations...
>
> And as you're not going to believe me, I'd suggest you to check PPI
> statutes to see the attributions of CoA, as we did to present our
> points :)
>
> You know, your personal desires can't be over PPI statutes!
>
>
> Get a life!!!
>
> K.
>
> PS: I've you in my spam filter, so, I will not read your replies :)
>
>
> Al 25/09/12 16:57, En/na Jordi Soucheiron ha escrit:
> > Don't feed the troll
> >
> > 2012/9/25 Antonio Garcia <ningunotro at hotmail.com
> <mailto:ningunotro at hotmail.com>
> > <mailto:ningunotro at hotmail.com <mailto:ningunotro at hotmail.com>>>
> >
> > As member of the remembered Court of Arbitration, maybe your
> > priority should be to tell our readers where my complaint
> about "a
> > breach of PPI Statutes" and "fraudulent rephrasing of an PPI
> > Statutes Article to fit unwarranted desires of some"... remain
> > lost in the CoA bureaucracy.
> >
> > My use of Gibraltar as a figure is only for the sake of
> comparing
> > gravity of the issue, and smearing my anarchist background
> on its
> > use is unworthy of you and the post you occupied, a clear Ad
> Hominem.
> >
> > Antonio.
> > PP-ES
> >
> >
> > > Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 15:36:00 +0200
> > > From: arturo.martinez at pp-international.net
> <mailto:arturo.martinez at pp-international.net>
> > <mailto:arturo.martinez at pp-international.net
> <mailto:arturo.martinez at pp-international.net>>
> > > To: pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
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> > <mailto:pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
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> > > Subject: [pp.int.general] Obsession with Gibraltar
> >
> > >
> > > Dear Antonio Garcia,
> > >
> > > Given that 98% of people in Gibraltar voted against
> joining Spain...
> > > Why would a pirate Spanish or otherwise find offence?
> > >
> > > Your repetitive circular arguments suggest that you
> believe that
> > > repeating a lie many times will make it true and that contrary
> > to your
> > > self-confessed anarchist outlook, you are a Spanish
> nationalist.
> > >
> > > I am yet to hear a bona fide anarchist of any nationality
> moan about
> > > Gibraltar
> > >
> > > Have a nice day
> > >
> > > On 09/25/2012 03:14 PM,
> > > pp.international.general-request at lists.pirateweb.net
> <mailto:pp.international.general-request at lists.pirateweb.net>
> > <mailto:pp.international.general-request at lists.pirateweb.net
> <mailto:pp.international.general-request at lists.pirateweb.net>> wrote:
> > > > about the meaning of the word "Country" in the Statutes
> of PPI
> > to grant Spain an unasked for second Gibraltar in Catalonia, and
> > fraudulently rephrased one of the articles of the Statutes to
> > grant the General Assembly more discretionary decision power on
> > the admittance of new members than she really has (sidetracking
> > for the Catalonian Pirate Party provisions in the Statutes that
> > were strictly observed to reject the application of other Pirate
> > Parties), will be declared void.
> > >
> > >
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> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 17:28:47 +0200
> From: Kenneth Peiruza <kenneth at pirata.cat <mailto:kenneth at pirata.cat>>
> To: pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
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> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Italian Pirate Party - Scandal
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> Al 25/09/12 17:10, En/na MRE ha escrit:
> > Dear Antonio,
> >
> > What you said in your last email I already knew was your opinion, I
> > wasn't asking you to repeat that, I'm sorry if I wasn't clear
> enough.
> >
> > I was asking your opinion on another question: Do you think that the
> > PPI should be able to decide who is and who is not a member of
> PP-IT?
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Muriel
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2012/9/25 Antonio Garcia <ningunotro at hotmail.com
> <mailto:ningunotro at hotmail.com>>:
> >> That is an easy one, Muriel. I'm surprised you dare ask.
> >>
> >> Because the PPI GA did not have the right, per its own
> Statutes, to grant
> >> Pirates de Catalunya full member status the way it was done
> after Kenneth
> >> blackmailed it threatening to derail the GA with all the
> international press
> >> present only months before two important elections in Germany.
> >>
>
> Hahahahaha
>
> Poor fool.
>
> You missed Samir and Thomas trolling the GA in front of the press,
> right? maybe that happened whilst the GA was voting and there was no
> PP-ES delegate present in the room to vote...
>
> Oh man, have you considered suicide?
>
>
>
>
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> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 17:31:56 +0200
> From: HerNenya <isabel.fdez at mundo-r.com
> <mailto:isabel.fdez at mundo-r.com>>
> To: pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
> <mailto:pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net>
> Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] Italian Pirate Party - Scandal
> Message-ID: <5061CE6C.4060207 at mundo-r.com
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> On 25/09/12 16:43, Francisco George wrote:
> >
> > Catalonia is reaching out for idenpendency so they will have all the
> > time to be restored as full member.
> That statement is not quite accurate.
>
> The catalonian people are discussing this issue, but they haven't
> get an
> statement yet and it is not so sure they are going to be an
> independent
> state.
>
> So please, use other arguments and try not to manipulate other
> people's
> views to reach your own purposes.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Isabel Fdez.
> PP-GAL
> >
> >
> > 2012/9/25 <pp.international.general-request at lists.pirateweb.net
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> > <mailto:pp.international.general-request at lists.pirateweb.net
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> >
> > Re: Italian Pirate Party - Scandal
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Kenneth Peiruza
> <kenneth at pirata.cat <mailto:kenneth at pirata.cat>> wrote:
>
> > Al 25/09/12 17:10, En/na MRE ha escrit:
> > > Dear Antonio,
> > >
> > > What you said in your last email I already knew was your
> opinion, I
> > > wasn't asking you to repeat that, I'm sorry if I wasn't clear
> enough.
> > >
> > > I was asking your opinion on another question: Do you think
> that the
> > > PPI should be able to decide who is and who is not a member of
> PP-IT?
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Muriel
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2012/9/25 Antonio Garcia <ningunotro at hotmail.com
> <mailto:ningunotro at hotmail.com>>:
> > >> That is an easy one, Muriel. I'm surprised you dare ask.
> > >>
> > >> Because the PPI GA did not have the right, per its own
> Statutes, to
> > grant
> > >> Pirates de Catalunya full member status the way it was done after
> > Kenneth
> > >> blackmailed it threatening to derail the GA with all the
> international
> > press
> > >> present only months before two important elections in Germany.
> > >>
> >
> > Hahahahaha
> >
> > Poor fool.
> >
> > You missed Samir and Thomas trolling the GA in front of the press,
> > right? maybe that happened whilst the GA was voting and there was no
> > PP-ES delegate present in the room to vote...
> >
> > Oh man, have you considered suicide?
> >
> >
> No I feel ashamed for taking part in this conversation. Is that
> acceptable
> for this mailing list?
>
> --
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