[pp.int.general] Really now?

[Boris Turovskiy]

It seems that the issue finally begins to be taken seriously. Has only
taken, like, 3 years. For a privacy-minded movement like ours, that's just
great!^^


On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Patrick Godschalk <
patrick.godschalk at piratenpartij.nl> wrote:

>         Because there is no fee, I believe :-D
>
> "If a product is free, then the users are the product." You can set up
> a decent mail server for less than 5 euro's/dollars/whatever a month and
> still run other stuff. If the fee is truly the reason, then I find it
> disgusting that the PPI considers the privacy of all people that e-mail
> to them worth less than 5/month.
>
>
>
>         I hve been wondering the same thing ever since I got my @
>         pp-international.net mail account, and I believe the answer was
>         "because it's convenient" (which it is). Our Privacy officer was
>         not very amused about that fact, either. However, as the strong
>         recommendation is to send any sensitive data with PGP encryption
>         anyway it's not that critical.
>
> Yeah, the whole convenience argument holds so much weight. Hold on, let
> me put all 2.000 members of the PPNL on Google Docs, because it's more
> convenient than setting up a decent system. (This is a joke.)
>
> I'm an avid PGP user but one of the few. Most people haven't even heard
> of PGP let alone use it (or be capable enough to set it up by
> themselves). If our collective point of view is now "meh, users should
> create their own privacy" then why even bother having a Pirate Party?
> Or any political party at all? You can relativise everything to death
> this way.
>
>
>
>         Which made me think...this list is public anyway and google bots
>         and humans can read all it`s content. I wouldn`t worry too much.
>
> There non-public lists and I've been keeping the emails I receive
> through those lists (and my list pw) anally secure. For nothing, it
> seems.
>
>
>
> Anyways, I'm (obviously) quite pissed about this. Not because of my own
> privacy, because as said above, I personally use GnuPG anyway. However,
> it either shows that the PPI board is completely out of touch with the
> core values of Pirate Parties - privacy being one of them - , or they
> still remember but didn't care, which blatant disregard for other
> people's privacy. I find both of those equally disgusting.
>
> ~ Argure
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