[pp.int.general] free software video streaming

Antonio Garcia ningunotro at hotmail.com
Sat Feb 23 11:27:02 CET 2013

You think wrong, Travis... we have NOT agreed.

I think WE have stated... that we pirates should honour the gentlemens agreements of our fellow pirates, and that we do not want to alienate Mr. Richard Stallman and the Free Software Foundation from our struggle.

You do well to state your affiliation with the kopimist church minority, but your behaviour, as a member of the board of PPI, acting on the PPI mailing lists, should NOT jeopardise pirate interests.


From: me at travismccrea.com
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 15:19:34 -0500
To: rms at gnu.org; pp.international.general at lists.pirateweb.net
Subject: Re: [pp.int.general] free software video streaming

I'll bite at the flame bait:I think we have all agreed (including you, I hope?) that as long as the hosts of the event publish the speech using free software (OOG or whatever) then if someone independently (myself?) decides to upload it to YouTube or something that will be okay. So I don't want to get into that debate much, however, if you said that no one could share your speech using non-free software or methods (like YouTube) then you are limiting the number of people who will stumble upon your speech and share your message. I disagree with doing that.
While I stand corrected that properly it should be called "GNU/Linux" but we should also call QTips "Cotton Swabs" but it has become the colloquialism to call them QTips, just as we now call it "Linux" right or wrong. You can try to fight it as much as you want to get it to change, but honestly I don't see it happening you are in a very small minority and the community had the option to accept GNU/Linux as the common name but they didn't so I don't see it coming back. I am truly sorry that it isn't because you deserve your rightful credit, I will at least on my own attempt to be better -- you are not in the wrong for correcting me, but I do not believe that I am in the wrong by stating the other.
Plenty of people believe that GNU/Linux is becoming too user friendly with GUIs and stuff and they don't like offering support to ex windows users because they should have to learn terminal the hard way like they did. Yada yada. It's techno-elitism, and go to some of the support channels for non-mainstream distros and you are more likely to find it. That's what drives people to Ubuntu and Mint. 

Travis McCreaPirate Party of CanadaThe Ultimate Ebook LibraryKopimist Church of Idaho
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On Feb 21, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Richard Stallman <rms at gnu.org> wrote:McCrea is attacking straw men again.

    We have nothing to gain, and a lot to lose by limiting our message
    to people who already know about us. It's actually highly elitist
    to think that only people who jump through the hoops that we lay
    out for them are worthy of hearing our message.

Nobody here said anything like that.  Nobody suggested that we should
limit who can see our message, and nobody said that anyone is "not
worthy" of it.

    The people who think that all flavours of [GNU/Linux]

He said "Linux", but he must mean the GNU/Linux system, since Linux
itself has no user interfaces.  He's talking about my work and giving
the credit to another.  See http://www.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html.

This error is widespread, so perhaps he said it from simple habit
and didn't mean anything by it.

							  should be
    difficult and not n00b friendly are a great example of this.

Does anyone here believe that?

Dr Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation
51 Franklin St
Boston MA 02110
www.fsf.org  www.gnu.org
Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software.
  Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call

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